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re: I really don't understand why Trump is at odds with Massie.

Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Padme
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Those shite bags will do anything besides pass a decent piece of legislation with nothing in it for them or the donor class.



I don’t disagree, but you have to play the cards you’re dealt, and therein lies the difference between the two. Hell Trump can’t even get his appointments in because his own party is fighting that. That doesn’t mean Trump isn’t pissed about it, but he understands his hand.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:22 pm to
Massie funded this war while Trump was out of office.

Congress, which Massie is part of, holds the purse strings.






This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:25 pm to
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It is easy to talk big on X.

It is hard to actually solve problems.

Massie prefers to cry like a bitch so he can tap into that Joo Tard and Melt Bro engagement on X.

Trump is solving problems at home and abroad, cleaning up the mess that Massie and his brethren have created the last few decades.

If Massie decided to be cooperative towards solving these problems he would probably be treated differently. Instead he would rather be an attention whore.


Spot on assessment of Massie. Actions speak louder than his daily Tweets.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:30 pm to
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quote:
I really don't understand why Trump is at odds with Massie.


Because Trump the President has no problem being at odds with Trump the Campaigner.


So, just pull a Massie and be an all-or-nothing, line in the sand contrarian and get NOTHING accomplished, none of your agenda that American people elected you to pass, passed? Because if everything is a line in the sand and at odds with Mitch McConnell's GOPe/uniparty neocon establishment Senate, then you will get NOTHING passed... but you can pat yourself on the back and suck your own dick for being "principled." I guess that's the silver lining for do-nothing contrarian Liberaltarian nerds like Massie and his followers. The Liberaltarian street cred is worth it, apparently.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:30 pm to
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quote:
I really don't understand why Trump is at odds with Massie.


You have it backwards.


Exactly.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:31 pm to
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I really don't understand why Trump is at odds with Massie.

There are two kinds of politicians in the US now: the ones Trump is fighting against and the ones he going to be fighting against.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:32 pm to
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but these continual battles with Massie are just unforced errors.


I agree. Massie should shut the frick up and be realistic, given the circumstances in the Senate and GOPe control.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:36 pm to
Massie isn’t a RINO. However he is a contrarian. He needs to learn to pick his battles better.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10665 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Trump is clearly Israel First


God is also Israel first.

quote:

For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:51 pm to
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I do.. massie is a RINO

He's a contrarian and an attention hooer.

He's a beta male version of Murkowski and Collins.

He thrives on claiming to be smarter than everyone else in the room ... and if anyone doesn't believe that all they need do is ask him.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13604 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

quote:
It is easy to talk big on X.

It is hard to actually solve problems.

Massie prefers to cry like a bitch so he can tap into that Joo Tard and Melt Bro engagement on X.

Trump is solving problems at home and abroad, cleaning up the mess that Massie and his brethren have created the last few decades.

If Massie decided to be cooperative towards solving these problems he would probably be treated differently. Instead he would rather be an attention whore.


Spot on assessment of Massie. Actions speak louder than his daily Tweets.



BOOM.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:04 pm to
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The routine where any Republican who doesnt lay down and roll over for Trump 100 percent of the time gets called a RINO is extremely silly and ditzy and retarded.
Cuckoo land world where Massie is a RINO, but Mike Johnson isn’t.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:08 pm to
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But you're right about one thing. Massie certainly is a career politician. For that reason alone I trust Trump WAY MORE than I do him.
After being bought off by Jeff Yass for the TikTokFlipFlop, Trump can no longer claim to not be anything other than a typical a politician. His comments about buying votes with the BBB cement it further.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Trump is very much a pragmatist. He says what he needs to say to get elected and then once elected, takes a significantly more measured and "deal making" approach once in office. He does not have a strict belief structure on many issues other politicians do.

Yup. clear graduate of the John McCain school of RINOism.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9744 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Cuckoo land world where Massie is a RINO, but Mike Johnson isn’t.


Since we’re comparing apples and bowling balls, wonder why Massie isn’t in leadership?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Watch how many MAGA supporters come out against this bill just because Massie sponsored it: Baffling
Not really. I remember Momentoftruth and maybe a few others during the primary season say they didn’t care about what policies got implemented, they just wanted Trump to “win”. I respect them for being honest about it.
Posted by UncleLogger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:20 pm to
I believe people are glossing over the key point here.

Even if you don’t particularly like Massie it still doesn’t make sense for him to be singled out by Trump to be ousted.

We have people like Murkowski, Cassidy and other RINO’s that literally voted to impeach Trump, among tons of other things. Yet Trump calls for a multi million dollar PAC to oust fricking Thomas Massie?? For being sort of a pain in the arse sometimes? That doesn’t make sense and y’all know it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:22 pm to
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I agree. Massie should shut the frick up and be realistic, given the circumstances in the Senate and GOPe control.
The GOPe has overtaken MAGA ebven faster than it did the TeaParty. MAGA didn’t even put up a fight.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28131 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Even if you don’t particularly like Massie it still doesn’t make sense for him to be singled out by Trump to be ousted.


It does when you understand what drives Trump.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Since we’re comparing apples and bowling balls, wonder why Massie isn’t in leadership?
When did MAGA fall in love with the GOP establishment leadership? Yall crack me up.
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