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re: I need some explanation of this transcript

Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:07 pm to
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You're simply grabbing on to throw away lines. That statement was benign. Other statements could be used as an argument, but certainly not that one.


I'm admitting the context is unclear...I guess we're just in some sort of disagreement that we won't resolve.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Curious, isn't it?
quote:

Not even a little bit.

Please see my response to ShortyRob's post which is one post up from yours.

It is applicable to you, as well.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:10 pm to
The context seems fairly clear. He just said we weren't treated as well as we treated Ukraine. He overtly says this to countries all the time. Hell, he straight up said it to the entire organization of NATO.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Please see my response to ShortyRob's post which is one post up from yours.

It is applicable to you, as well.


OK

Was it that clever retort about Trump Authoritarian blah blah?

Because, if so, wow. You're a clever one.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:12 pm to
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So this is the transcript of Trump's very first phone call to Zelensky after he was elected and Trump mentioned Biden how many times?

And this transcript is of a phone call that was made only ONE week after Trump held up the $400 million aid to Ukraine that Congress had already approved.

How many more phone calls did Trump make to Zelensky, and how many other phone calls were made to Zelensky by Giuliani and/or Pence while the $400 million aid to Ukraine was being held up by Trump?

And how many times did Giuliani and/or Pence meet with Zelensky while the $400 million aid to Ukraine was being held up by Trump?

Trump released the $400 aid to Ukraine TWO DAYS after the whistle-blower complaint was made public.

Curious, isn't it?



So all this unsubstantiated innuendo is apparently curious to you but Biden publicly admitting to bribery on video is a nothing burger?
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:14 pm to
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How many more phone calls did Trump make to Zelensky, and how many other phone calls were made to Zelensky by Giuliani and/or Pence while the $400 million aid to Ukraine was being held up by Trump?

And how many times did Giuliani and/or Pence meet with Zelensky while the $400 million aid to Ukraine was being held up by Trump?

Trump released the $400 aid to Ukraine TWO DAYS after the whistle-blower complaint was made public.

Curious, isn't it?



Is it you, texshidder?

Are you the blower of whistles?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:25 pm to
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So all this unsubstantiated innuendo is apparently curious to you but Biden publicly admitting to bribery on video is a nothing burger?

As with anything, this should be considered in context. Here's my context. Free free to express
yours.

BEFORE Biden went to Kiev, BOTH the European Union and the IMF had threatened to withhold billions in aid from Ukraine unless Ukraine fired Shokin.

I believe Biden was asking for Shokin to be fired with the prior knowledge of the Obama administration, which would mitigate against it being a matter personal to Biden.

I could be wrong, but I don't think/believe Biden would have admitted this before a crowd of people if he believed he wasn't acting within his authority as V.P. on behalf of the U.S. government when he made the demand on Ukraine.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Is it you, texshidder?

Are you the blower of whistles?

Quiet. No one is supposed to know.

Feel free to actually respond to what I posted.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1041 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:37 pm to
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So this is the transcript of Trump's very first phone call to Zelensky after he was elected and Trump mentioned Biden how many times?



Where there other calls and meetings? I thought it was reported earlier that this was just the second call between the parties?
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6670 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:38 pm to
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it's confusing and frustrating having to sort through the democrats' bullshite and the media's spin that's obviously being used for cover.


This is why I'm DONE with them! Done with the dems, done with the MSM, including the likes of Fox, etc. If Trump breaks the law, I no longer give a shite!

EVERY damn thing that they put out in the ether is later proven false (i.e. LIES!!!) &/or exaggerated. All this makes it confusing for the public or either downright dupes a large portion of the pubic: this is their INTENT!!!

Done, done, done. Trump breaks law? No longer care. Dems break the law: cover, hide, lie, avoid investigation, etc..... Well, that works both ways. All I look for is equal enforcement & it just isn't there.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44349 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Crowdstike is the Ukrainian IT firm


No, it's not. It is a US cybersecurity company based in Sunnyvale.

The CEO and co-Founder George Kurtz is a US citizen born in New Jersey.

The other co-founders are Gregg Marston (also from the US) and Dmitri Alperovitch, who was born in Moscow and has lived in the US since he was a teen. All three came from Foundstone, McAfee's Incident Response division.

There is literally zero ties to Ukraine or Russia.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:44 pm to
Where's TigerinDC09? Amidst all the postings today, I must have missed his response. I mean, he was so confident... so sure, yesterday, surely he didn't "lose internet connection" again, did he?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Feel free to actually respond to what I posted.


Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6670 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:57 pm to
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I've said on multiple occasions that there is likely a lot of truth in what gets posted in there but it's a shame that it gets overshadowed by a lot of kookiness


Just shows the dems/MSM antics worked on you. I'm sure many in the public have as well. This is why it's so infuriating for those who have really paid attention but wonder why there is no investigation---no "Special Counsel"---appointed. Alas, the last hope seems to be Durham. You should follow Bongino, he knows ALL.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:04 pm to
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I could be wrong, but I don't think/believe Biden would have admitted this before a crowd of people if he believed he wasn't acting within his authority as V.P. on behalf of the U.S. government when he made the demand on Ukraine.

He probably could've believed he was operating within his authority and really wasn't. The man has delusions of grandeur all the time. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility for someone like him.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:06 pm to
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I could be wrong, but I don't think/believe Biden would have admitted this before a crowd of people if he believed he wasn't acting within his authority as V.P. on behalf of the U.S. government when he made the demand on Ukraine.



Just out of curiosity.

Why do you think the Ukrainian company hired Hunter at his Salary?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:06 pm to
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Just shows the dems/MSM antics worked on you.

This is also a reason why I stopped paying attention to the Q people. If you're not 100% on board with everything, you're some sort of sheep duped by the press. It's comments like that that completely kill your message and turn off rational people like me.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:16 pm to
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There is literally zero ties to Ukraine or Russia.

Why did Trump bring it up in the call, then?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44349 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:38 pm to
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Why did Trump bring it up in the call, then?


Because they are a cybersecurity firm used for investigating cyber crimes?

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Because they are a cybersecurity firm used for investigating cyber crimes?


That doesn't sound like it adds up
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