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re: I know Trump was under tremendous pressure, but he shouldn’t have shut us down.

Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:23 pm to
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Well anyone who actually takes this as being trumps fault is an idiot who’s opinions are worth less than used toilet paper.


There are lots of idiots who vote
Posted by highbooost
Dayton, OH
Member since Sep 2016
1341 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:24 pm to
The Trump administration has and is doing NOTHING to keep America on track.

However Fauci the deep state, globalist, and the left are getting their way and rejoicing.

Start calling it like you see.

Holding is holding, you Trumpest are like the lying Sports Caster that tries to tell me what I saw during the game didn't really happen.

Trump has bothered me most this entire time, he's that X factor that just didn't make sense....until last night. If he is a globalist plant EVERY thing makes sense.

He could have told every one to calm down, he never had to give the mic to fricki and Brixi. I mean 6 weeks and where is the "lock her up" and "build the wall" Trump?

Socialism, globalism, economic destruction, religious freedoms abolished, the constitution trashed, businesses destroyed...for the season flu, and the charade is still continuing.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20773 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:25 pm to
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The country shut its arse down and Trump wasn't screaming not to. He's going to get the blame that's coming, and it's going to be an avalanche


Come on, let's be real...he is/was in a no win situation. The media is going to blame him for anything relentlessly. He erred, if any, on the side of caution until we got some idea of what was going on. Now as we see this has been mitigated, he is suggesting we open back up soon but my goodness...the fine line he has to walk is nothing anyone casting this blame you are referencing will EVER have to deal with. Any missteps on his part will be ballyhooed to death.

So in essence, anyone who wants to Monday Morning QB this mess was likely never going to be in Trump's corner anyway because anyone looking at this reasonably would understand the circumstances and chalk things up to a shitty situation that was a tough call and even tougher with the way the Diarrhmedia spews its non-sense.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43938 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:25 pm to
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I don’t recall that happening.



As a small business owner being shutdown, I can assure you he did. This was a concerted effort by both parties to pull this level of stupidity together.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:26 pm to
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I just can't possibly envision the lone voice in the wilderness successful alternative here, in a real world logistical sense.


Do you think no conservative Governors would have stood with Trump had he encouraged them to stay open?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20773 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Well anyone who actually takes this as being trumps fault is an idiot who’s opinions are worth less than used toilet paper.


quote:

There are lots of idiots who vote



Of course, but these idiots likely would have never voted for Trump anyway.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Sounds like you wanted him to order that states shouldn't have been allowed to shut down.


Just the opposite. I’m saying some states would have had cover to remain open had Trump encouraged them to do so.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:30 pm to
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Come on, let's be real...he is/was in a no win situation. The media is going to blame him for anything relentlessly.


That’s right. That’s why it would have been better to die on a hill of his own making and not someone else’s.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:34 pm to
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I know Trump was under tremendous pressure, but he shouldn’t have shut us down


Trump didn't shut much down, state and local governments did. More important, even before they got around to it, many large private organizations made the choice to discontinue work that couldn't be sustainably continue in the face of the virus.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:35 pm to
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If he is a globalist plant EVERY thing makes sense.


This is a reoccurring thought that keeps popping up in my head. It’s the stuff of nightmares.
Posted by highbooost
Dayton, OH
Member since Sep 2016
1341 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Do you think no conservative Governors would have stood with Trump had he encouraged them to stay open?


Winner winner chicken dinner, it's called leader ship.

No one wants to stand alone. If Trump would have banded together with good states this shite would have never happened.

You pathetic pussies are actually saying your MR BIG MAN got trapped by the media he makes fun of daily.


LOL, looks like they won and he lost, Pathetic.

This Guy - Spits on Trump Admin
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17057 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:36 pm to
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They can say they are following the federal guidelines Trump put out.


Show me the guidelines where trump made them shut down their entire economies?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35451 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:36 pm to
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This isn’t my narrative. This is a straw man that has been mysteriously woven into my OP.
Didn't mean for that to come across like I was directly addressing you. My apologies.

I fully understand what you were saying. It's a constant fight just trying to keep the original reasons for the states implementing draconian sanctions against their own citizens from evolving into more reasons why these unconstitutional actions should continue.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18790 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:37 pm to
Trump issued federal guidelines to slow the spread.
Governors shut it all down and then help their hands open for federal money and supplies. Go figure.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17057 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:37 pm to
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And?


You said that trump should have provided some guidance for reopening the economy. That was him doing exactly that. He can’t force these states to open, nor the cities.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:38 pm to
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Show me the guidelines where trump made them shut down their entire economies?


The first 14 day shut down was a federal guideline. How can you deny this?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17057 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:38 pm to
some people work for a living, others vote.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28235 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:40 pm to
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You said that trump should have provided some guidance for reopening the economy


Actually I didn’t. I said he should have never encouraged any shut down.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17057 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:40 pm to
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The first 14 day shut down was a federal guideline. How can you deny this?


Was it a forced guideline?

Or was it a suggestion?

Who forced the states/cities to continue their lockdown?
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