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re: I just found out that half of all births in the US are paid for by Medicaid

Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:02 pm to
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Yet if someone proposed raising the minimum wage 2 dollars an hour you'd probably have a conniption fit


Most people were already hiring @ 9.

Barely anyone makes the actual federal minimum wage. And its usually people who have never had a job before.



Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:03 pm to
Got to have a permeant underclass and easily manipulated and loyal voting block.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Most people were already hiring @ 9.

Barely anyone makes the actual federal minimum wage. And its usually people who have never had a job before.


I guess my point is why would we expect anything other than a shite ton of people on government assistance when there are so many low wage workers?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Certainly some people work at or near minimum wage


Not many..and if you exclude teenagers it’s really a small number



1.5% of workers earn minimum wage
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Got to have a permeant underclass and easily manipulated and loyal voting block.



The permanent underclass is inevitable

What is your alternative? Forced abortions?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:08 pm to
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What is your alternative? Forced abortions?




Disincentivizing popping out a herd of bastards would probably be more effective.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:08 pm to
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The permanent underclass is inevitable What is your alternative? Forced abortions


Federal aid increases the size of the permanent underclass
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85528 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:10 pm to



I mean you are talking about 500,000 people.

Im not against helping people out in need.

But as far as medical care, our doctors and nurses are paid too much, and you shouldnt be getting pregnant if you dont have the means to raise a child, whether thats from your own support or support of family.

your life decisions shouldnt be a burden on others.

I smoked cigarettes for 14 years. I dont expect you to pay for my medical expenses that may arise from that.





Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Disincentivizing popping out a herd of bastards would probably be more effective.


Would not be effective at all
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:17 pm to
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I mean you are talking about 500,000 people.

Im not against helping people out in need.

People that make 13-16 or so hourly are pretty poor in most places

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and you shouldnt be getting pregnant if you dont have the means to raise a child

I mean you shouldn't. But if you think you're going to stop millions of years of evolution and our most primal instincts because of rationality you're a damn fool.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:17 pm to
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What is your alternative? Forced abortions?



Men need to step up and be fathers
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Men need to step up and be fathers


Sure. And if the best the guy can do is make 15 dollars an hour how is he reasonably going to support a family of 3?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:19 pm to
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Would not be effective at all


Well it would certainty be cheaper.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Sure. And if the best the guy can do is make 15 dollars an hour how is he reasonably going to support a family of 3?


Try not having a family of 3. That was tough.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18775 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:20 pm to
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mean you shouldn't. But if you think you're going to stop millions of years of evolution and our most primal instincts because of rationality you're a damn fool.




It's really not that hard to not have a baby until you are married or at least out of school.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:20 pm to
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isincentivizing popping out a herd of bastards would probably be more effective.

Would not be effective at all



So our government telling people on Medicaid they will pay for "one" child birth but will pay zero$$$ for child two, child three or four is an ineffective strategy for you?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25801 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Sure. And if the best the guy can do is make 15 dollars an hour how is he reasonably going to support a family of 3?


60 hours a week? 2 jobs? Wife works also? Live with family? Move to cheaper housing (live in a single wide trailer)?

Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:20 pm to
If you have kids or grandkids, your realization skillsets of America is in Decline, 2nd Coming of Jesus nears, One World Order/Flood USA/EU with indigent Immigrants to bring about Authoritarian Nanny States ruled by Big Tech/Big Bank/Big Pharma/Govt Bureaucrats/Oligarchs, WASP nations worldwide having flatline or negative birth rates, DNC uses taxpayer and NGO money to breed and import and buy votes,etc..are kind of slow reognition.

Pray, act, the fix is in..time is short.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170477 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:20 pm to
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So our government telling people on Medicaid they will pay for "one" child birth but will pay zero$$$ for child two, child three or four is an ineffective strategy for you?


Yes

There isn't much you can do to keep people from having sex
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
34710 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:21 pm to
The United States is unsustainable. We are headed for a complete collapse. It’s not a matter of if but when.
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