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re: I Hope All Faithful Catholics Will Join Me In Prayer That When Pope Francis is Called Home
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:52 pm to Guntoter1
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:52 pm to Guntoter1
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RIGHT THERE in scripture that the apostles were ordained by Christ to forgive sins.
Book, Chapter, and verse?
Jesus said we are all equal. God is the only Great being.
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:57 pm to 3nOut
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we partner with some churches in Rwanda and they are assuredly based. not politically but in views of scripture.
Well that's what I was getting at... based Christianity is the best Christianity.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:27 pm to Toomer Deplorable
My parish had a black priest from Africa for a couple of years several years back. Absolutely loved hearing this guy speak and his voice was very crisp but thunderous. He was cool as a cucumber and his accent was awesome.
He often spoke about the hard times his village faced but they never ever stopped praying and are very strict and devout Catholics! A couple of things he didn’t take kindly to was gays, trannies, and those pedofiles (yeah yeah I know…). I’m highly confident he’s not abiding by this demon of pope and his gay/trannie recognition bullshite.
I know our current priest isn’t playing that game either.
He often spoke about the hard times his village faced but they never ever stopped praying and are very strict and devout Catholics! A couple of things he didn’t take kindly to was gays, trannies, and those pedofiles (yeah yeah I know…). I’m highly confident he’s not abiding by this demon of pope and his gay/trannie recognition bullshite.
I know our current priest isn’t playing that game either.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:09 am to 4cubbies
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Blessing people isn’t the same as blessing their sins.
Despite the claims to the contrary, this directive goes further than that.
Can a blessing be bestowed upon workers who willfully work in an abortion clinic?
Again, specifically blessing couples engaged in “irregular” relationship — i.e. relationships that intrinsically are opposed to Catholic teachings — unnecessarily sows confusion and thus seeds scandal among the faithful.
As Cardinal Gerhard Müller — who previously headed the Vatican’s Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith — has indicated in a lengthy rebuttal, the blessing of couples in scandalous relationships ipso facto opens itself to an interpretation that the blessing bestows some level of approval on such a relationship:
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….Blessing a reality that is contrary to creation is not only impossible, it is blasphemy. God cannot send his grace upon a relationship that is directly opposed to him and cannot be ordered toward him. …if this blessing were given, its only effect would be to confuse the people who receive it or who attend it. They would think that God has blessed what he cannot bless. This ‘pastoral’ blessing would be neither pastoral nor a blessing. It is true that Cardinal Fernandez, in later statements to Infovaticana, said that it is not the union that is blessed, but the couple. However, this is emptying a word of its meaning, since what defines a couple as couple is precisely their being a union….
This new Vatican directive will necessarily lead to ecclesiastical abuses by progressive forces in the church that seek to fundamentally change the core tenets of the church regarding human sexuality.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 8:14 am
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:14 am to GeauxGutsy
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The Catholic Church lost their way and credibility long ago. The Pope has been a false prophet for decades. The Vatican is controlled by the elites.
They always have been but at least they pretended to have a set of morals.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:16 am to Toomer Deplorable
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God cannot send his grace upon a relationship that is directly opposed to him and cannot be ordered toward him. …if this blessing were given, its only effect would be to confuse the people who receive it or who attend it. They would think that God has blessed what he cannot bless. This ‘pastoral’ blessing would be neither pastoral nor a blessing. It is true that Cardinal Fernandez, in later statements to Infovaticana, said that it is not the union that is blessed, but the couple. However, this is emptying a word of its meaning, since what defines a couple as couple is precisely their being a union….
He’s dead right about all of this
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:40 pm to Revelator
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He’s dead right about all of this
And no amount of hermeneutic tap dancing by the defenders of this Jesuit Pope changes the reality that to bless any couple is to confer a degree of legitimation to that relationship. What exactly is being blessed when a couple in an “irregular” relationship is being blessed if not the relationship itself?
If not the relationship, why the blessing? The two individuals in the relationship could be blessed individually if it is not the relationship itself that is being blessed.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:41 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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And no amount of hermeneutic tap dancing by the defenders of this Jesuit Pope changes the reality that to bless any couple is to confer a degree of legitimation to that relationship. What exactly is being blessed when a couple in an “irregular” relationship is being blessed if not the relationship itself?
That won’t stop them from trying!
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:09 pm to Gus007
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Book, Chapter, and verse?
Jesus said we are all equal. God is the only Great being.
He is referring to John 20:23.
However, there are multiple interpretations of this quote and they don't draw the same conclusion.
The point of this thread isn't to debate this topic though so I'll just leave it at that.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:41 pm to Toomer Deplorable
My he die peacefully in his sleep like Nancy Pelosi.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 4:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable
It is about caving to the mob that isn’t even a mob. A small percentage. But people will gladly betray their religion to appease humans.
Gays don’t want to be a part of Church, don’t want to participate, hate everything about it, and most are probably atheist. They are only asking for a blessing so that they can ruin an institution for everyone else. That is all it is.
Gays don’t want to be a part of Church, don’t want to participate, hate everything about it, and most are probably atheist. They are only asking for a blessing so that they can ruin an institution for everyone else. That is all it is.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 10:53 am to Toomer Deplorable
The Catechism says what the RCC believes, not the Pope.
Anybody can look it up in the Catechism.
LINK
Anybody can look it up in the Catechism.
LINK
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:12 pm to Champagne
IMHO, every Catholic should read the Catechism. IMHO, the only way to discuss the Faith should be by reference to the official publication of our beliefs and doctrines.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 7:29 pm to Toomer Deplorable
The Pope won't be called "home" until his sponsor decides that he has done sufficient work on promoting his interests. In the meantime, Satan will allow him to continue serving his interests before calling it enough and sending a replacement to do the work.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 7:41 pm to RealityWinsOut
Posted on 12/23/23 at 8:15 pm to Toomer Deplorable
May as well get the schism over with
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