re: I have zero respect for anyone who is a Muslim and doesn't stand up to this BS

Yup. Was a kick in the gonads because we really liked SATX. And one of my first tasks is to plan the promotion ceremony for the incoming DCG.

Damn if that does not hurt

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Luckily Western leaders have been more judicious with respect to their own Islamic populations, which cuts off the source of their propaganda.

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It's working wonders in Western Europe.

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It's like poking a bear to see if it will attack you, and then using that reaction to justify poking it in the first place.

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Except in this instance, the bear is already attacking you, and your choice is to do nothing so other bears don't get pissed off.

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a Muslim is commanded to kill non believers by Allah.

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just so we are clear, let me first say that i am a SECULAR HUMANIST and don't support ANY religion... IMO, they all are equally terrible.... but:

A careful and unbiased study of these and other verses, in their proper context, will reveal that the exhortations to fight “idolaters” and “unbelievers” are specific in nature and are not general injunctions for the murder of all those who refuse to accept Islam as their way of life.

Among the most often cited verses is this one: “Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” (Quran 9:5).

According to Islamic belief, the Quran was “revealed” to Muhammad in a process of dialog with the Divine, and some parts of the Quran refer to specific situations, while other parts offer universal spiritual principles. To understand this passage, we must take into account the historical circumstances at the time of its revelation.

The “idolaters” (Arabic: mushrikeen) were those Meccan “pagans” who had declared war against Muhammad and his community. The Meccan oligarchs fought against the Prophet’s message from the very beginning. When they realized that the flow of converts to Islam was increasing, they resorted to violent oppression and torture of the Prophet and his followers. The Prophet himself survived several assassination attempts, and it became so dangerous for the Muslims in Mecca that Muhammad sent some of his companions who lacked tribal protection to take asylum in the Christian kingdom of Abyssinia. After 13 years of violence, he himself was compelled to take refuge in the city of Medina, and even then the Meccans did not relent in their hostilities. Eventually, various hostile Arab tribes joined in the fight against the Muslims, culminating in the Battle of the Trench, when 10,000 soldiers from many Arab tribes gathered to wipe out the Muslim community once and for all. As we know, the Muslims survived these challenges and eventually went on to establish a vast civilization.

At the time Verse 9:5 was revealed, Muhammad and his followers had begun to establish themselves securely. They had returned triumphantly to Mecca without violence, most Meccans themselves had become Muslims, and many of the surrounding pagan Arab tribes had also accepted Islam and sent delegations to the Prophet pledging their allegiance to him. Those that did not establish peace with the Muslims were the bitterest of enemies, and it was against these remaining hostile forces that the verse commands the Prophet to fight.

The verses that come immediately before 9:5 state, “Those with whom you have treaties are immune from attack.” It further states, “Fulfill your treaties with them to the end of their term, for God loves the conscientious.” Now, in its proper context, verse 9:5 can be properly understood.

This was a guidance to the Prophet at that specific time to fight those idolaters who, as 9:4 mentions, violated their treaty obligations and helped others fight against the Muslims. It is not a general command to attack all non-Muslims, and it has never signified this to the overwhelming majority of Muslims throughout history. Had it been so, then every year, after the “sacred months are past,” (The “sacred months” are four months out of the year during which fighting is not allowed) history would have witnessed Muslims attacking every non-Muslim in sight. This yearly slaughter never occurred. Though the present verse is only one example, none of the Quranic verses that mention fighting justify aggression nor propose attacking anyone because of their religious beliefs. Nor were forced conversions recognized as valid under Islamic law.

What you are referring to is exactly what the documentary "The Jihadis Next Door" shows. It was the exact tactic they described and used.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being your neighbor Bill, and 10 being Yaser Abdel Said, how suspicious would you be of a cab driver named Farooq?
If it's anything more than 1, then you're, objectively speaking, misguided and ignorant.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, if you're walking down a street in the ghetto at 3am and 5 guys dressed in gang colors are approaching you, how concerned would you be about your safety?

If it's anything more than 1, then you're, objectively speaking, misguided and ignorant.

Your argument is dumb. Choosing to ignore statistical probabilities so you can feel self-righteous is willfully choosing stupidity over common sense.

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shocked at the number of times devout Muslims confronted and literally fought with street preaching Islamists who were (obstensibly) recruiting for ISIS. Definitely changed my mind about how the average Muslim views violent Islamists.

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You're open to learning new things; so am I, and that's why I'm a fan. Most of this board? Not so much. "Set in their ways" is the nice way to put it.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, if you're walking down a street in the ghetto at 3am and 5 guys dressed in gang colors are approaching you, how concerned would you be about your safety?

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Depends on what city I'm in, but slightly more than 1, I'd say, and that comes from personal experience.

Speaking of personal experience, if those were Muslims looking Muslimy, it would be a 1. And that's coming from a decade of living among them. The neighborhood votes Republican, too, which is good since frick Democrats.

I think your mistake—and most of this board's mistake—is that you have this crazy idea that you know what you're talking about because of what you see on tv and read on the sites you choose on the internet. You don't. I do—I've known countless Muslims personally. Your tv is lying to you. Don't buy the gold coins in the commercials.

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Honest question ('s) for you.

Why do you care about muslims and what a muslim thinks? What's at stake for you with wanting to allow those no good savages into America? You're a piece of shite if you're more worried about muslims rather than worry about the well being and safety of Americans and this country! If you and the rest of the retarded liberals care so much about those no good bastards, why don't you carry ALL of your sorry, weak asses over to the middle east and start doing mission work to civilize those animals? GFY you no good lying piece of shite! This is America. If you don't like it then GTFO of here.