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re: I guess I don’t understand the outrage from our side over the Ashli Babbitt shooting
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:06 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:06 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:You're struggling to keep up. I said nothing about your conclusion.
Tell me more about how I came to that conclusion before watching the video
If you could comprehend the post you quoted, it was clearly talking about the conclusion you made about me.
quote:That's fantastic, your opinion on my viewing of the video was 100% incorrect, so you got that going for you. Congrats, I guess.
And my opinion of you and what you do in threads isn't formed blindly.
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:07 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:I wonder what it's like to not be able to have a simple discussion with someone without getting pissy.
You're such a clown.
I can't ask you that of course, because you clearly have no idea. You melt every time you reply to me.
It's pretty odd how irrational you become so quickly.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:07 pm to shel311
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I wonder what it's like to not be able to have a simple discussion with someone without getting pissy.
Oh my god look how worked up you are. Clam down!!!!!
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:09 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Melt post #3, this is not good.
Oh my god look how worked up you are. Clam down!!!!!
I think we've lost him, and we're not getting him back.
I guess a melt is a good way to deflect from the fact that you formed your opinion on my take on the video and was wrong about it, so you want us to ignore that. So let's lose our mind and just post nonsense so we can forget about that part, pretty sad playbook you got going for you.
But feel free to stop the melt and actually respond rationally to my post. Odds of that are pretty low, but it would be prefered for you to go that route instead of the normal pissy melt.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:12 pm to shel311
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Melt post #3, this is not good.
Just doing my best impression of you.
You came back to this thread for nothing more than to argue some irrelevant nonsense. It is the height of classic you. And now that someone is pointing that out you will just hammer me about melting and losing it and so on.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:13 pm to shel311
The other thing I find is interesting in general is that people feel they have to take a direct, hard line stance on every topic. Specific to this one, it has to be either he's obviously innocent and this is a good shoot or he's obviously a murderer who should be behind bars.
I don't know why we can't do more of simply "I don't know" as that's just as good of an answer as the other 2.
Saying we probably need to know more facts on this one before forming such extreme conclusions...it's like that's not even a viable option. It has to be one extreme or the other without all the facts to draw those conclusions logically.
I don't know why we can't do more of simply "I don't know" as that's just as good of an answer as the other 2.
Saying we probably need to know more facts on this one before forming such extreme conclusions...it's like that's not even a viable option. It has to be one extreme or the other without all the facts to draw those conclusions logically.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:15 pm to shel311
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The other thing I find is interesting in general is that people feel they have to take a direct, hard line stance on every topic. Specific to this one, it has to be either he's obviously innocent and this is a good shoot or he's obviously a murderer who should be behind bars.
I don't know why we can't do more of simply "I don't know" as that's just as good of an answer as the other 2.
Saying we probably need to know more facts on this one before forming such extreme conclusions...it's like that's not even a viable option. It has to be one extreme or the other without all the facts to draw those conclusions logically.
This is great in a vacuum. The problem is this shooting by police is handled much differently than others. A genius such as yourself surely recognizes that.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:16 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:It's like you want to say stuff that is incorrect.
You came back to this thread for nothing more than to argue some irrelevant nonsense
I'm not sure why someone would want to be incorrect all the time, but that is my best guess for most of the posts you make towards me, that you're trying to be wrong on purpose. I guess it makes sense if you're trolling, that would be the only conclusion that makes sense.
quote:It's the height of classic that I replied to posts directed towards me...like I said you've lost your group on having any sense of logic with regards to me. It's pretty wild that me replying to posts directed towards me has you this far on tilt.
It is the height of classic you
quote:Nah, that's not the reason I'm calling you out for melting. I'm calling you out for melting because you're melting. When you can't even have a simple debate without breaking down to call someone a clown, that's a pretty obvious and textbook melt. Own it, you did it, at least own it.
And now that someone is pointing that out you will just hammer me about melting and losing it and so on.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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This is great in a vacuum. The problem is this shooting by police is handled much differently than others. A genius such as yourself surely recognizes that.
Exactly.
"Make it apolitical!" They say, when a White right leaning person is killed by a cop.
Why should we? This is political. Everything about the entire context is political. She was killed in the Capitol building for fricks sake.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:17 pm to shel311
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Nah, that's not the reason I'm calling you out for melting. I'm calling you out for melting because you're melting.
No words, no words.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:19 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Do you agree that given this was the Capitol building and we obviously had a shite ton of critical government folks as well as I'm sure critical documents that were going to be protected at all costs, would you agree there were very likely officers who had direct orders to say if someone crossed some line or some point, the order was shoot on sight? Or not even that this is 100% so, would you agree that it is entirely possible that order was given to someone if some person passed some certain point, yes or no?
This is great in a vacuum. The problem is this shooting by police is handled much differently than others. A genius such as yourself surely recognizes that.
I assume yes, so if yes, do you know with certainty that the shooter was not operating under those orders?
That's my entire stance here. I don't know. What were his direct orders for someone who went pass that door? That's a critical piece that I would need an answer to before forming such a strong stance on this situation.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:21 pm to shel311
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Do you agree that given this was the Capitol building and we obviously had a shite ton of critical government folks as well as I'm sure critical documents that were going to be protected at all costs, would you agree there were very likely officers who had direct orders to say if someone crossed some line or some point, the order was shoot on sight?
Based on the other officers standing right behind her, no I don't. I would also be very surprised if Ashli was the only person that day that crossed some mythical line in the sand.
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That's a critical piece that I would need an answer to before forming such a strong stance on this situation.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the point of my post. I assume you know that.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:22 pm to shel311
quote:
Easy to understand
Most people around here won't watch the video then form an opinion.
Their opinion is already formed generally based on their political leanings, and they watch the video with that extreme bias and contort the facts to try and talk up their side.
Citation needed.
I see lots of people on here making very clear cases as to why this incident is a problem. And what's your response? Avoid the actual arguments and just assert that their stances are formed by political bias.
Then you strut around as if you have a hot take or something. GFYPosted on 4/16/21 at 1:25 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Well we've already established you were 100% incorrect with respect to the original point of your post, so no real need to discuss that any further.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the point of my post. I assume you know that.
You formed your opinion on what you thought was my take on the video. I gave my take in a separate post even, it was nothing like what you stated. You were wrong, it happens. We can move on from that part now I'd think.
quote:That's confusing. Your 1st sentence says you don't believe there was a line, and you're 2nd sentence says multiple people crossed the line that you don't believe existed.
Based on the other officers standing right behind her, no I don't. I would also be very surprised if Ashli was the only person that day that crossed some mythical line in the sand.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:27 pm to shel311
quote:
Well we've already established you were 100% incorrect with respect to the original point of your post, so no real need to discuss that any further.
Holy shite, dude. Wow
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That's confusing. Your 1st sentence says you don't believe there was a line, and you're 2nd sentence says multiple people crossed the line that you don't believe existed.
WowPosted on 4/16/21 at 1:27 pm to Azkiger
quote:Gotcha, yea you're right. People never have political biases, not sure why I ever thought that may be the case
I see lots of people on here making very clear cases as to why this incident is a problem. And what's your response? Avoid the actual arguments and just assert that their stances are formed by political bias.
quote:In what world is saying I don't know and I'd need more info before forming an opinion a hot take? It's legit the least hot of all the takes.
Then you strut around as if you have a hot take or something. GFY
All the folks in this thread who said he's a murdered, if there are any that said 100% he's innocent, those are hot takes. Mind was "I don't know" which is the most lukewarm take you can have.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:28 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:What part of you being wrong did you not understand?
Holy shite, dude. Wow
It 100% happened, you gave your thought on me, we can still find and read that post, you were wrong. That happened. If you need me to help you by quoting it, just let me know.
quote:So you didn't say you thought there was no line but you thought she wasn't the only one who crossed the line? You didn't say that?
Wow
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:30 pm to shel311
quote:
What part of you being there did you not understand?
It 100% happened, you gave your thought on me, you were wrong. That happened.
For a guy harping on someone for supposedly not understanding a post they responded to, I'm just gonna sit here and laugh at you.
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So you didn't say you thought there was no line but you thought she wasn't the only one who crossed the line? You didn't say that?
I'm saying I don't believe there was one, but even if there was I doubt she was the only crosser. Really high level stuff. Sorry for assuming the smartest person in the world could figure it out.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:31 pm to shel311
Member when I said you only came back here to argue miniscule shite? Member when you denied that?
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Go for it, doesn't make you any less wrong.
For a guy harping on someone for supposedly not understanding a post they responded to, I'm just gonna sit here and laugh at you.
quote:Maybe make your posts make sense next time, just a thought.
I'm saying I don't believe there was one, but even if there was I doubt she was the only crosser. Really high level stuff. Sorry for assuming the smartest person in the world could figure it out.
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