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re: I finally watched the ENRON Documentary

Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by roothog1
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:17 pm to
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Not really, it’s played out during human history.

Just happened with covid.

Trying to do the same thing with biology and men and women.

People with all the markers of being intelligent thinking it’s healthy for kids to believe in Santa and want to take hormone blockers.


Seriously, Enron is childs play compared to this pharma scam that went down the last 3 years.
Posted by Pechon
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:29 pm to
Lou Pai's story in the whole ordeal is crazy. He was out there living the life on cocaine and hookers and managed to elude jail time. Dude did not give an eff.



Also, there are some good videos of Andrew Fastow on Youtube. Since it's pretty obvious his days in accounting are pretty much done, he's made a living speaking about how he did it. For example: LINK
This post was edited on 11/1/22 at 11:32 pm
Posted by mule74
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:36 pm to
What “Canon doc”?
Posted by roothog1
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 11:37 pm to
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What about the government and the Fed? They are worse than Enron and get away with it everyday.


Yep, 100%. The only really well done documentaries I've found that at least try to dig at the system as it is are Adam Curtis, even if he is kind of a leftist, I think he's actually far closer to a conservative than he would admit.

At least with Curtis, you begin to see that for the Federal Reserve to have maintained the dollar system this long, its required the CIA to operate the world's largest drug cartel, or that they're engaged in creating the very terrorism which we then have to go fight abroad. Or that they are involved in massive human trafficking, or that they've been deliberately supporting regimes abroad deploying death squads to kill innocent people, all to secure natural resources our system relies on. Or that our govt has they've been robbing average hard working Americans through complete BS propaganda for over a century & we all just accept it because we have no ability to imagine an alternative version of events.

Documentaries like Smartest Guys in the Room are perfect for low IQ libs who are unable of seeing the forest for the trees when it comes to our economic reality because its taking a tiny sliver of the world & pretending its this horrific thing (because its conveniently framed under this "look at those Republicans over there at Enron, they're the real problem" bs), when literally the bigger picture problem is 1000x worse, to the point where a lot of people would probably have to be admitted to an insane asylum if they knew the truth of what was going on underneath the surface to prop up this horror show.

There is a strange psychological phenomenon with people where they seem to be easily able to emotionally connect on a single issue like Enron or whatever, but somehow there becomes a disconnect at trying to understand the bigger picture, that gets written off as "conspiracy theory". If Enron does anything, it actually proves conspiracy is the way the world they live in works. How foolish do people have to be where powerful people don't conspire daily to grow or at least maintain their existing power.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 1:24 am to
A bit of trivia: Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos swindler chick) is the daughter of one of the vice-presidents at ENRON. However, I do not think he was ever charged with anything.

Another but of trivia: Andrew Weissman, who went after Trump for 4 years, was the prosecutor on some of the ENRON cases. 5 of his prosecutions were later overturned by higher courts. In one case, SCOTUS overturned the conviction 9-0.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:15 am to
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Enron was bad, but Arthur Anderson was the real disgusting actor in all of this.

No. AA deserved what they got, but Enron was worse.
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I assume the companies are immoral money hungry assholes
Wrong again! Some are, some aren't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:23 am to
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What “Canon doc”?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:24 am to
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And you of all people don’t see any irony at all in that statement?

I argue with the equivalent of Enron employees every day on this forum, so no.
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