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re: I finally got a response from a TD white male liberal re political beliefs

Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7233 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:00 am to
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-Taxing billionaires


A page right out of Bernie Sanders's playbook, it used to be millionaires right up until the time he became one.

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-environmental regulation and protection


Another serious way to increase the price of goods and provide another way of taxation in disguise.

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10893 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:04 am to
He wants more government, so no, I don't stand w/ AggieDub.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3336 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:17 am to
Shallow buzzwords as Stout and others said. So shallow they can be manipulated to suit either side. If he meant something along the lines of the following, then we're not too far apart...

-Helping people in need

Welfare should be reduced, but if veterans (for one example) were prioritized over illegal immigrants, and handouts without incentives to improve ones lot were modified into work-for-welfare type programs with stricter accountability, helping people becomes more reasonable.

-Taxing billionaires

This is the most complex issue... Raising income tax always hits the middle and upper middle class hardest, never the billionaires, who don't generally take a straight income. To the extent anyone has to pay, billionaires should, too. A flat tax might help, and capital gains should be the same rate as income tax. Executive compensation (through stocks, etc) should always be taxed once immediately without deferments based on fair value of assets. Tariffs and sales taxes are a potentially interesting way of reducing personal income tax for the middle class while ensuring the economic activity of billionaires and corporations (who hide taxable profits offshore) gets accounted for.

-common sense immigration reform

Strict enforcement of existing laws and aggressive deportations is common sense. Common sense also dictates that handouts that incentivize migrants to come here and fraudulently claim refugee status should be eliminated. And NGOs and charities that work to promote immigration should be scrutinized and absolutely should not get a government penny.

-a return to normalcy

Getting rid of DEI and other pro-Marxist constructs would help return society to normalcy.

-environmental regulation and protection

Carbon capture is rubbish. But there is some importance in making sure industries handle contaminants / waste responsibly (to not give everyone in a given town cancer or pollute hunting and fishing lands).

-protecting public school funding

Any funding should be directed towards students and the classroom, not bloated bureaucracy and bizarre social programs (as has been happening not only in K-12, but in colleges as well).

This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 10:27 am
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:20 am to
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Christian Mercy ethic

There is no such thing while being pro choice.

Someone who hectors others on Christian Mercy towards murderers but demands women be free to murder their offspring is spitting in the face of God.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2429 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:20 am to
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Taxing billionaires


I’m old enough to remember when the talking point was tax millionaires
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50056 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:24 am to
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All shallow buzz words with no substance


Thats all any of them have.

"If you support Trump you're in a cult."

"It was never meant for America to have a King." *

"Trump hasn't been attacked by the corrupt Political Establishment."

"Trump is divisive."

Etc, etc. Just empty buzzwords.


* If any lefty here thought that the "No Kings" rallies were stupid, not one of them ever stated that opinion on this board.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28172 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:45 am to
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I hope the PT beat down don’t destroy her altruistic spirit. Hell, I hope reality don’t destroy mine.


I hope it does. Yours, hers, and all other progressives.

This country is too soft. It will cease to exist if it continues to be run by the suicidal empathy types.

But I honestly think this is just the natural order of things. Weak men create bad times and all that...
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59473 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Taxing billionaires


Does he think billionaires aren’t taxed?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122900 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:34 pm to
Bump for anyone curious about the current Dem platform
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

-Helping people in need

Deadbeat Democratic Voters and non White people
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-Taxing billionaires

White people
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-common sense immigration reform

More Non White people
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-a return to normalcy

Return to Kids being taken from their parents after a teacher tells them they are trans.
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-environmental regulation and protection

Fck the economy
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-protecting public school funding

Teachers own your kids.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122900 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:46 pm to
Bump.

So far no white male Democrats have joined in to elaborate or defend these positions. Beaux Duke? VOR? Tboy?
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6485 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:54 pm to
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I want my government run on vibes

Not an option on the liberal buzz word hierarchy chart.
Could we offer you some "Joy"????
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13966 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:03 pm to
Thread needs to be pinned
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:08 pm to
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a return to normalcy


Democrats consider 1996 “normalcy” to be fascism in 2026.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4911 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:13 pm to
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If only 4cubbies could finally admit she was wrong about Trayvon martin being murdered by police and jail employees murdering Sandra bland in her jail cell.

Must be nice to finally have a leftist admit they are wrong to you…. 4cubbies you ready yet babe?

your obsession with that girl and an incident from over a decade ago is pretty creepy
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122900 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:19 pm to
Do you agree with aggiedub14?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

want my government run on vibes


JOY!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:23 pm to
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When was the great era of American “normalcy”?


Pre-Obama
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4911 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:23 pm to
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-Helping people in need
-Taxing billionaires
-common sense immigration reform
-a return to normalcy
-environmental regulation and protection
-protecting public school funding

it's pretty vague but sure i guess
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122900 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:24 pm to
Could you help him out? Maybe you’re privy to some further details the public is not?
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