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re: I apparently have been under a rock -- can someone link what has cleared Trump please?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:13 am to Wayne Kenoff
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:13 am to Wayne Kenoff
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I just would like to see an official word as such.
Who’s word is more official than the President’s word?
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:15 am to AggieHank86
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Trump randomly tweeted that he has been cleared, with zero support for the claim.
There is more support for his claim than support for "muh collusion".
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:18 am to Wayne Kenoff
You can't be cleared of a charge that was never handed down.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:18 am to TigerDoc
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He tweeted he's cleared so he's cleared ok
Doc....did you think Cohen flipped and gave the goods on Russia? Are you now satisfied that you will be forced to hope for campaign finance violations?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:20 am to Wayne Kenoff
Can't speak for the rest of the msm but I am using the same unnamed sources they have the last three years to scoop the world that no collusion has been found and that the report while not saying it explicitly implies that DJT is perhaps the greatest POTUS of all time.
Just facts today.
Just facts today.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:22 am to Wayne Kenoff
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I just haven't seen anything official come out and exonerate him yet, other than his own tweet.
Thats nice.
Exactly what evidence have you seen that has shown he is guilty of something? More specifically, what charge do you see evidence for?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:23 am to BBONDS25
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Doc....did you think Cohen flipped and gave the goods on Russia? Are you now satisfied that you will be forced to hope for campaign finance violations?
This question should be answered by all card carrying anti-Trumpers on this board. I’m seriously curious.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:24 am to Dale51
quote:This is so typical of a Trump supporter.
Exactly what evidence have you seen that has shown he is guilty of something? More specifically, what charge do you see evidence for?
The OP did not ask anything about proof of guilt. Trump supporters are shouting from the rooftops and church steeples that Trump has been exonerated. OP simply asked about support for that claim.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:26 am to AggieHank86
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with zero support for the claim.
The onus isn't on Trump to prove a negative.
If someone is investigated for years and you find no crime, it's because there isn't a crime.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:27 am to YankeeBama
quote:Personally, I never thought that there WERE any “goods on Russia.”. There was enough smoke to justify taking a look, but I did not expect them to find any fire.quote:This question should be answered by all card carrying anti-Trumpers on this board. I’m seriously curious.
Doc....did you think Cohen flipped and gave the goods on Russia? Are you now satisfied that you will be forced to hope for campaign finance violations?
As I have said many times, the Trump Tower meeting proves nothing other than the fact that his staff (includung Junior) were utterly incompetent.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:29 am to AggieHank86
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Trump supporters are shouting from the rooftops and church steeples that Trump has been exonerated. OP simply asked about support for that claim.
It’s simple. You can’t be exonerated unless you have been convicted of a crime. Trump hasn’t even been charged. Friday was the last hope of the resistance, no charges came. Trumps legal team combed through the docs and announced that he is clear from Russia Collusion.
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Exoneration occurs when the conviction for a crime is reversed, either through demonstration of innocence, a flaw in the conviction, or otherwise. Attempts to exonerate convicts are particularly controversial in death penalty cases, especially where new evidence is put forth after the execution has taken place.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:29 am to thebigmuffaletta
quote:And I am not suggesting otherwise.
The onus isn't on Trump to prove a negative.
But Trump made an affirmative claim to the effect that he has been actually exonerated. He DOES have the burden of supporting an affirmative claim.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:30 am to AggieHank86
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exonerated
I don’t think you know what that means.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:31 am to AggieHank86
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As I have said many times, the Trump Tower meeting proves nothing other than the fact that his staff (includung Junior) were utterly incompetent.
So meeting to get dirt on a political opponent is incompetent? Are you fricking serious.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:31 am to ninthward
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Trump's tweet saying he's been cleared?
Cleared of what? What's the accusation or charge?
Trump tweeted that he was cleared. He didn’t provide any more details. That’s all you need to know. Now go out and repeat it.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:31 am to Nguyener
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unindicted co-conspirator
Add to it that this is a made up term that literally has no meaning and doesn't even exist.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:32 am to SDVTiger
I think she means that they should have known that it was a set up by her side.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:33 am to YankeeBama
That is the most-restrictive of several definitions of the term “exonerate.” The more common is
quote:There need not be a prior conviction
(especially of an official body) absolve (someone) from blame for a fault or wrongdoing, especially after due consideration of the case.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:33 am to roadGator
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think she means that they should have known that it was a set up by her side.
That makes White Guilt Hank look even dumber
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:34 am to YankeeBama
quote:I am confident that I understand the multiple usages of the term at least as well as you.
I don’t think you know what that means.
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