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I am of the opinion that the left is playing a dangerous game re: illegals

Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:59 am
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:59 am
Their continuous support of completely open borders, no restrictions on anybody coming in or out, no voter id, giving welfare to illegal immigrants, etc. is extremely dangerous for the left and in turn, the country as a whole.

Look at Germany, they’re seeing a huge uptick in nationalistic leanings from their native people. The people that are SUPPOSED to be there. France is on its way to that as well. Britain just voted to get out of the EU even if it is still an incredibly left wing country.

I will say that Immigration was the driving point that got President Trump elected. People are extremely tired of the illegal aliens in this country. And the more the left continues to push for extreme open borders, the more serious backlash they should be prepared for from the right. The fact that they’re just blatantly lying about whose fault these illegal alien children being separated from their illegal alien parents is is just one more nudge down the road to backlash worse than 2016. I gotta be honest with you though, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit if the right finally, collectively took a stand and said “no more” to these sick loons on the left.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79098 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:01 am to
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they’re seeing a huge uptick in nationalistic leanings from their native people. The people that are SUPPOSED to be there.


If they don't push back, then Merkel wins. Same here. Fortunately, we don't have a pussy in office that will call a spade a spade and is MAGA first and foremost.

F those spineless cowards.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:05 am to
100%.

They are creating a monster and they don't even know it. Eventually the silent majority will get tired of being bullied in their own country and the backlash will be awful. I hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime.

Europe is much further along this path than we are, so hopefully we'll be able to learn from them when it happens there, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:06 am to
I'm of the opinion that I DGAF about leftists
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:14 am to
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They are creating a monster and they don't even know it. Eventually the silent majority will get tired of being bullied in their own country and the backlash will be awful. I hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime


Echoes my thoughts.

In very general terms, a society has "conservatives" and "progressives."

The progressives drive for new concepts/ideas while the conservatives ensure that the society doesn't drive off a fricking cliff by preserving the status quo which has - at the very least - perpetuated the society's existence.

Recently, progressives have been accelerating the car to a speed that conservatives collectively feel is dangerous. Trump's election was the nation's collective conservative conscience putting their foot on the brake pedal.

But instead of getting the message, progressives took Trump's election as a signal that the country needs to accelerate even faster.

If that isn't curtailed, that same collective conservative conscience which elected Trump will - sooner or later - hit the fricking emergency brake. It won't be pretty.

That's why the two-party system and the "professionalization" of our political system is so dangerous IMO. Most politicians don't give a shite about "our country." They only care about getting elected. So they'll pander to their bases no matter what type of situation the country happens to be in.

This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
2532 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:20 am to
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They are creating a monster and they don't even know it. Eventually the silent majority will get tired of being bullied in their own country and the justified retribution will be glorious.
Posted by G I Jeaux
off duty
Member since Aug 2009
2170 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:26 am to
The left hates the USA. They also feel guilty about what they have. So they want to take what others have and give it to those They think need it.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34729 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:29 am to
The left is trying to fundamentally change this country through mass illegal immigration across the southern border. It’s prettt much that simple. Anything that doesn’t allow that won’t work for them
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95425 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:30 am to
This is the last act by a desperate side.

If they don’t legalize a ton of illegals by 2020 or at least keep them counted by the Census, there will be major shifts in the 2022 reapportionments.

States likely to show the biggest losses of seats due to this change include California, New York, New Jersey, Florida, Texas, Illinois, Virginia, North Carolina, Massachusetts, Colorado, Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.

The vast majority of these are blue or purple states. No Republican has won several of these since 1984.

By contrast, Dems have won all of these but Arizona, Texas, or Georgia within the past 8 years.


Shifting EVs out of a number of these states and back toward ones in the Great Plains, Midwest, or Deep South means a significant House and EV gains for Republicans right there.

That narrows their path to victory in the House and Presidential race. And that’s without taking Trump’s victories in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan into account.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23704 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:36 am to
Perhaps if the administration didn't adopt Steven Miller's fascist wet dream policies, people wouldn't get upset when they learn of Steven Miller's fascist wet dream policies.

Do things that are good and get respect. It isn't hard.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:39 am to
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Do things that are good and get respect. It isn't hard.
Or do what I want you to do and I won't sky scream like a little beotch.
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:48 am to
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Their continuous support of completely open borders


Stopped reading right here.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81676 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:48 am to
I'm disappointed that we haven't had any epic "womp womp" memes.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:51 am to
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Perhaps if the administration didn't adopt Steven Miller's fascist wet dream policies


Name em.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:55 am to
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mattgr1983


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Stopped reading right here.


Why?
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:58 am to
The scum that controls the left doesn't give 2 shits about the American people or the sovereign country of the United States.

This is all part of their long term goal of creating a slave race to to serve them in their communistic world government.

Don't believe me? Head down the rabbit hole.

Wake up people!
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:06 am to
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Why?



Show me a mainstream politician's platform that includes completely open borders.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73592 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:08 am to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:18 am to
Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Sanders, Warren and on down the line on the left.
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:21 am to
Ok dummy. We are done talking.

Comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty.

Pelosi co-sponsored for comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty

SPONSOR'S INTRODUCTORY REMARKS: Sen. McCAIN: This bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation is designed to fix our Nation's broken immigration system. While in previous years we worked independently on immigration reform legislation, we are coming together today to introduce what we believe is groundbreaking, comprehensive legislation. Over a year ago, the President laid out a framework for what comprehensive immigration reform should look like. We have used the President's framework to craft this package.

The simple fact is that America's immigration system is broken. Recent vigilante activities along the southwestern border have shown that the current situation is not sustainable. Americans are frustrated with our lack of border security and our inability to control illegal immigration.

Make no mistake, this is not an amnesty bill. We are not here to reward law-breakers, and any accusations to the contrary are patently untrue. This bill recognizes the problems inherent in the current system and provides a logical and effective means to address these problems. It would be impossible to identify and round up all 10 to 11 million of the current undocumented, and if we did, it would ground our Nation's economy to a halt. These millions of people are working. Aliens will not come forward to simply "report and deport." We have a national interest in identifying these individuals, incentivizing them to come forward out of the shadows, go through security background checks, pay back taxes, pay penalties for breaking the law, learn to speak English, and regularize their status. Anyone who thinks this goal can be achieved without providing an eventual path to a permanent legal status is not serious about solving this problem.
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