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re: Hypothetical: Do people think this would’ve happened under Trump?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:44 am to DangerousWafer
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:44 am to DangerousWafer
This. We can play the what if game via Trump. But I suspect we are playing by the Taliban rules and have been for a while. They play the long game, we don't. If this were an European adversary we could work our way through this, but this is not a European enemy.
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:44 am to imjustafatkid
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Every time the Taliban attempted an attack while Trump was in office, he responded with far more force than they attempte
No, he didn't.
There were over 2000 attacks after the agreement was signed.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:45 am to DangerousWafer
quote:Well that is just fricking brilliant, on July 8th the Turnip said there will never be a Saigon like rooftop extraction.
Well, the plan was probably not having the Afghan army surrender as quickly as they did.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:45 am to Deuces
If this was Trump impeachment #3 would already be started up and every Democrat, Neocon, General and “journalist” would be calling for his resignation.
CNN would also have a counter up on the screen counting down the last time we heard from the a president. The NYT would be pumping out story after story of all the National Security staff threatening to quit and rumors of the 25th amendment being invoked.
This isn’t even debatable. It’s absolutely absurd the difference in how these administrations are treated.
CNN would also have a counter up on the screen counting down the last time we heard from the a president. The NYT would be pumping out story after story of all the National Security staff threatening to quit and rumors of the 25th amendment being invoked.
This isn’t even debatable. It’s absolutely absurd the difference in how these administrations are treated.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:54 am to DangerousWafer
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The Taliban violated the Doha Agreement several times with no retribution.
Of course I think this would have happened under any administration.
Paid hack, I have already embarrassed you once. They did not know if the fire came from the Taliban. Patience and knowing the situation is what good leaders do. Current leaders run to the media if it benefits them and hide if is does not. A couple of rockets fired that miss the target by miles is not reason enough to turn them into sand. Going door to door killing people that worked with the US is a reason.
You know good and well Trump would have already beat them back within 24 hours.
Edited to add: This gets better. Your hack media is working against you. Damn near every article written during the Trump admin blames the US on violating the Doha agreement.
Now if you are referencing Taliban violations during the Biden admin, I apologize. I made the assumption that you meant during the Trump admin.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:56 am to DangerousWafer
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No, he didn't.
There were over 2000 attacks after the agreement was signed.
Wouldn't take you long to find the media's hand-wringing over his constant bombings and attacks on the Taliban.
You are a liar.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:58 am to Deuces
No, bottom line Trump would not have allowed Milley to do this stupid shite. Milley, all of JCS, LLoyd the pussified Idi Amin, need to be called to resign and a court martial.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:25 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:31 am to DangerousWafer
quote:
Of course I think this would have happened under any administration.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:13 am to Deuces
I think the Taliban might have stormed through and taken over the country with the same speed after the US military withdrew regardless of whether Trump or Biden was President. The difference is I don’t think Trump would be dumb enough to withdraw the military in the middle of the night BEFORE evacuating all US civilians and other key parties AND removing/destroying all key resources so the Taliban could not capture and use them. Biden admin fricked this up royally.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:18 am to c on z
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No. Trump would of struck the Taliban down with JDAMS the minute they started getting froggy
The same Trump that agreed to that deal with that same Taliban?
Keep on grinding those stripped gears on your head…..lol!
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:24 am to wt9
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Now if you are referencing Taliban violations during the Biden admin, I apologize. I made the assumption that you meant during the Trump admin.
I'm referencing both administrations.
Biden did nothing and neither did Trump.
quote:
This gets better. Your hack media is working against you. Damn near every article written during the Trump admin blames the US on violating the Doha agreement.
That's not true though. I've seen plenty of articles blaming the Taliban for violating the agreement. The Pentagon even came out and said it.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:23 pm to DangerousWafer
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I'm referencing both administrations.
Biden did nothing and neither did Trump
I give you credit. This is probably the best the Biden admin can do. "yea, Biden sucks but so does Trump"
Scurry along, you better go wake Biden up from his nap for the afternoon press conference.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:33 pm to DangerousWafer
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I've never claimed 'I know shite.' Anyone who says they do doesn't understand how complex the situation is, which is why ascribing blame to one individual or administration is faulty.
That's like blaming the wreck you just had in your rental car on the guy that had the car before you.
Biden admin has been in charge for 9 months. They knew exactly what they were doing. Half the people at the Pentagon never "worked" a day for the Trump admin anyway.
As far as the Doha Agreement - see above. Biden admin had every opportunity since Jan 2021 to audit enforcement and did nothing. Committed to optics, not peace.
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