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KajunRhino
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
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Hypocrisy Culture
So one segment of America insists that a baker must bake a cake for someone with whom he disagrees with on a pollical or religious subject, citing the right of all citizens to participate in commerce.

The same people demand that others with whom they disagree with on political or religious matters should not be allowed to participate in commerce. “They should be fired!” “Don’t shop with the company he works for!”

If you want the freedom to VOTE with your dollar, VOTE with your voice and VOTE at the polls, you must allow that freedom to others. But don’t say “I can choose where I spend my dollar” or “I can choose who I hire” when you don’t let other choose who they do business with or employ. Don’t say marches, riots and violence are needed to bring about change and then condemn others for attempting to bring about change. Don’t say border walls and guns are evil then put up fences armed with soldiers.

At some point you’re not an advocate for civil rights, you’re just a hypocrite.


SammyTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
46514 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
Yeah it’s a bit hypocritical.

I personally think you should be able to deny service like the gay wedding cake.

I think The best way to deal with that is to boycott the business and see if they can survive.

It’s at least more consistent.

I like people stepping in these Situations rather than the government.

The flip side is, what if you live in a small area where services are limited? I would probably recommend moving out of a town where you can’t get any services, but that’s easier said than done.



KajunRhino
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
14 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
The Conservative thinks its the baker's business, he has the right to run it like he wishes.

The Socialist thinks the business required a license and it's the public's right to regulate it. After all, it is about the efficient delivery of public goods and services.

We can't agree on what the constitution says much less concepts of personal property and personal commerce.



Floyd Dawg
Georgia Fan
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
1785 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
Business “licenses” for most industries are nothing more than revenue generators for state and local government. They’re not necessary.


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CarRamrod
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Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
52789 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
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The flip side is, what if you live in a small area where services are limited? I would probably recommend moving out of a town where you can’t get any services, but that’s easier said than done.
or dont be the attention seeking gay couple that purposely went to a jewish bakery and asked for a super homo cake.


Thats the point of that story people miss. They didnt not bake these people a cake because they were some unsuspecting gay couple that wanted a regular birthday cake. They didnt bake the cake because they were attention seeking gays that went there for the sole purpose of getting turned down.


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KajunRhino
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
14 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
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I like people stepping in these Situations rather than the government.


I agree. In my initial post I mention the three votes. We vote daily with our voice and our dollar. And every so often we get to vote for our representatives. Too often Americans have shirked personal responsibility of the first two types of voting and instead demanded by the third that government force social change.

Our representatives can only pass two types of laws. Laws to tax us and laws that curb our freedoms.

I wish we had held firm to a small federal system and state sovereignty but we are too far down the trail now.

(And saying that I favor states' rights does not mean that I favored Slavery. I am here on the record saying that I abhor racism.)


Flats
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Member since Jul 2019
6615 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
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I like people stepping in these Situations rather than the government.


And yet you vote for the opposite if your posts here are any indication.


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Epaminondas
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re: Hypocrisy Culture
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...and VOTE at the polls...
Yeah, that worked great last time.


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Epaminondas
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Shorter Yards
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2020
321 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
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I think The best way to deal with that is to boycott the business and see if they can survive.


I agree but in that case a boycott wouldn't have accomplished anything. All bark and no bite. That business would have kept on doing it's thing with no real drop off of customers.

If only the rest of these cowardly companies would realize this.


ChineseBandit58
LSU Fan
west of the pines
Member since Aug 2005
32596 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
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So one segment of America insists that a baker must bake a cake for someone with whom he disagrees with on a pollical or religious subject, citing the right of all citizens to participate in commerce.


I see this problem as one of personal service rather than commodity exchange.

If you are selling cakes, you should be expected to sell that cake to any non-offensive person who wants to purchase it. You should not be expected to do anything but kick out a person who disrespects you or your employees or business.

HOWEVER if a person comes in and wants you to bake a "special" cake for them, you should be able to accept or deny that service based on the 'special' nature of the cake. If it is not in your normal repertoire then it's up to you to make the decision of whether to venture there or not.

IF you object to the sensibility of the wording, then you should be able to reject lending your artistic skills to something you don't agree with on a fundamental level.

You should not be expected to hire Cher to sing God Bless America at a Trump rally.


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nwacajun
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St louis
Member since Dec 2008
338 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
We are damn close to 1934 Germany.


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ChineseBandit58
LSU Fan
west of the pines
Member since Aug 2005
32596 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
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(And saying that I favor states' rights does not mean that I favored Slavery. I am here on the record saying that I abhor racism.)


tsk tsk tsk.

sorry - you have to put that phrase into every thought you might choose to express. You can not just deny it at the beginning or end of any statement. Every 3 word phrase you utter must be able to stand any interpretation the kooks want to lay upon it. And they don't have to explain their reasoning. If they merely say they "think" it is rayciss, then you are the guilty party.


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SammyTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
46514 posts

re: Hypocrisy Culture
I mean look at Chick Fil A.

Just kept chugging along and I even ate there.

Just like I buy Nike stuff despite the sweatshops and I dont Care about the NFL’s politics enough to stop watching.


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