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re: How many people are part of alt right movement?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:57 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:57 am to mmcgrath
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What's the criteria for membership?
You pretty much have to demonize government and the majority of both parties to the point that it becomes a little irrational. You have to push for ideologies without a concern for whether it works in reality or what it breaks.
Basically your are an a-hole with an unhealthy interest in conspiracy theories and politics.
So, I can count you in?
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:00 am to BugAC
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Could someone explain to me what alt-right is? Who are they? What is their political leaning? What is their message? What is their goals? Mission statement? anything?
Richard Spencer Wiki
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According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Spencer advocates for a white homeland for a "dispossessed white race" and calls for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" to halt the "deconstruction" of European culture.[23][18][24]
According to a 2010 article by Alex Knepper on David Frum's FrumForum.com, Spencer is an admirer of Friedrich Nietzsche, based upon "a hideously poor reading" of his works.[25]
In 2013, the Anti-Defamation League recognized Spencer as a leader in white supremacist circles, saying that since his time at The American Conservative, he has rejected conservatism, because according to Spencer, its adherents "can't or won't represent explicitly white interests."[26]
In a 2016 interview for Time magazine, Spencer said that he rejected white supremacy and slavery of nonwhites, preferring to establish America as a white ethnostate.[10][27]
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:00 am to StripedSaint
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That is not what Spencer is proposing...
If we removed all immigrants to the US in history, would the US be the industrial, military, and economic world power we are today?
Basically yes. The US has been 90%+ white for most of its existence. It's only been since 1990 that this has really started to change and what a surprise, everything is going downhill for middle America.
I'm not saying immigrants have not helped because they have, just that their contribution is not as large as what the media would have you think.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:04 am to HempHead
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Where are you seeing this?
Spencer Alt-right platforms are white nationalism, ethnostate, European genetics built the US and it belongs rightfully to white. It is in the speech. So the question is, is the country that he believes belongs to him and his followers the same country if there were no immigrants throughout history?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:05 am to Vander
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Basically yes. The US has been 90%+ white for most of its existence. It's only been since 1990 that this has really started to change and what a surprise, everything is going downhill for middle America.
I'm not saying immigrants have not helped because they have, just that their contribution is not as large as what the media would have you think
Grown ups are trying to solve problems in this country and you ignorant fricks are dragging them down with this bs
Study up. Correlation/Causation
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:06 am to gamatt53
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:07 am to Jbird
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The guy is insignificant. 200 douchebags at the "national" convention.
LINK
we have quite a few douchebags defending his propaganda here
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:09 am to Vander
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Basically yes
What an asinine answer. Absolutely not.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:09 am to gamatt53
quote:Meh so like that makes it 207
we have quite a few douchebags defending his propaganda here
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:24 am to Rakim
quote:Attribution of """White Supremacy""" to even a significant minority of conservatives is an obscenity.
Thoughts?
Alt-Right is a loose term formulated around opposition to neocons. There is no racial presupposition whatsoever.
Meanwhile, a high profile white supremacist pos hijacked the term, and actually even claims he coined the term, "alt-right". He didn't.
Nonetheless dishonest MSM types now claim anyone who ever used the expression "alternative right" to describe themselves, must be racist.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:26 am to gamatt53
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Grown ups are trying to solve problems in this country and you ignorant fricks are dragging them down with this bs
Study up. Correlation/Causation
I wasn't proposing any solution. All I was doing was pointing out that everything about our American way of life came from or originated from a specific part of the world and that if you replaced this entire culture, then nothing would be the same and America as we know it would not exist.
The thing that you don't realize and aren't getting is that immigration like we think of it, is exclusively a Western idea. The rest of the world? They either shun you at best (like the Japanese) or murder/rape you at the worst (Islamic Middle East and Africa) for just looking different. They would rather their countries experience cultural death than import any people that don't fit within their culture.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:28 am to Rakim
I used to be a Member of the Alt-Right, but I got hit with a few unexpected expenses two months ago and couldn't afford to re-up my membership.
I still have the card in my wallet, but I am not sure if I will need to get a new one, or if they can re-activate this one. I'll have to find out at the next Alt-Right Regional Conference, which isn't until next March.
I still have the card in my wallet, but I am not sure if I will need to get a new one, or if they can re-activate this one. I'll have to find out at the next Alt-Right Regional Conference, which isn't until next March.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:01 am to StripedSaint
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So the question is, is the country that he believes belongs to him and his followers the same country if there were no immigrants throughout history?
The answer is obviously no, but I'm not sure how you're drawing that particular line of thought. If he's talking about white identity, then it would be safe to assume that the exclusion of white immigrants is not on the agenda.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:59 am to gamatt53
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Basically yes. The US has been 90%+ white for most of its existence. It's only been since 1990 that this has really started to change and what a surprise, everything is going downhill for middle America. I'm not saying immigrants have not helped because they have, just that their contribution is not as large as what the media would have you think
Somehow I pictured you in a dim lit room with a picture of George Lincoln Rockwell on the wall when typing that
Considering this country was basically built on immigration, that last statement is pure hilarity
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:08 pm to Rakim
Alt right is not white nationalism, so that's a pretty good distinction that the media continues to ignore.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:24 pm to Rakim
If you supported Trump in the Republican primaries, then you are a member of the Alt-right
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:39 pm to HempHead
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then it would be safe to assume that the exclusion of white immigrants is not on the agenda.
His immigration beliefs fall under his definition of "white". Which in his speeches and writings change based on the audience. It moves from Germanic to European to the color of skin to Catholics.
Are you saying that white immigrants are the only immigrants that impacted our country positively?
To discredit the economic and cultural influence in the US of non "white" or non-Christian immigrants is wrong. It is also ignorant to not acknowledge the historical non-"white" influence on culture in Europe that Spencer so adamantly wants to preserve. It is mind-numbing that the South, especially states like Texas, Louisiana residents fail to see the influence of multiple non-traditional European immigrants has had on their cultures.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 3:00 pm to MrBiriwa
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The opinion advanced in the Notes on Virginia is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind; to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners. They will also entertain opinions on government congenial with those under which they have lived, or if they should be led hither from a preference to ours, how extremely unlikely is it that they will bring with them that temperate love of liberty, so essential to real republicanism? There may as to particular individuals, and at particular times, be occasional exceptions to these remarks, yet such is the general rule. The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 3:02 pm to Rakim
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Thoughts?
Only one, Hail Trump
Posted on 11/22/16 at 3:29 pm to Rakim
alt right is what Hillary named the "Trump" populous movement in order to discredit it. Media ran with it and now it is becoming common rhetoric.
Hannity has started the alt left narrative and imo, it needs to catch on. alt left being any democrat that uses terms like racist, xenophobe, sexist etc.
Hannity has started the alt left narrative and imo, it needs to catch on. alt left being any democrat that uses terms like racist, xenophobe, sexist etc.
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