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re: How many countries has the US signed ne tariff agreements?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:21 pm to Jorts R Us
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:21 pm to Jorts R Us
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Of course it isn't. Surely, you can reason why they don't want to do it.
Never said I didn’t understand. Just explained why Trump turned their offer down.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:23 pm to BBONDS25
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Yes
What's wrong with VAT?
Isn't that what everyone here wants for us in the US?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:26 pm to BBONDS25
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Never said I didn’t understand. Just explained why Trump turned their offer down.
So you expect them to upend their system despite the protections in place to limit the abuse your concerned about? You are surprised they won't agree to a deal where they essentially waive taxing jurisdiction not only over imports but domestic competitors as well? K
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:27 pm to Jorts R Us
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So you expect them to upend their system despite the protections in place to limit the abuse your concerned about? You are surprised they won't agree to a deal where they essentially waive taxing jurisdiction not only over imports but domestic competitors as well? K
Trump wants a tax free trade deal. They can agree to one or not. If not, fine. Tariffs it is.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:28 pm to tigeraddict
I’m sick and fricking tired of impatient people. We are three fricking months into a 4 fricking year term
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:30 pm to BBONDS25
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Trump wants a tax free trade deal. They can agree to one or not. If not, fine. Tariffs it is.
Is he going to force the states to reciprocate in kind?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:31 pm to Jorts R Us
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Is he going to force the states to reciprocate in kind?
Nope.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:34 pm to BBONDS25
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Trump wants a tax free trade deal.
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Nope
K
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:37 pm to Jorts R Us
You asked a question about a power Trump doesn’t have. My answer is succinct and accurate.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:38 pm to BBONDS25
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You asked a question about a power Trump doesn’t have. My answer is succinct and accurate.
I'm aware he doesn't have the power. What I'm questioning is the accuracy of your description of the deal given the conditions.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:43 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
That shows you how dumb the average American is about investing. It’s smart to invest in equities when valuations are close to all time highs dating back 100 years but not when valuations contract slightly pushing up forward returns 
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:45 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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SneezyBeltranIsHere
You actually believe that graph means anything?
God damn there needs to be a minimum IQ requirement to post.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:35 pm to Jorts R Us
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You are surprised they won't agree to a deal where they essentially waive taxing jurisdiction not only over imports but domestic competitors as well? K
I don’t give two fricks about domestic competitors.
If they want to tax THEIR companies, have at it.
I gave a rather simplistic analogy.
It applies to what was mentioned.
Anything else is deflection.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:42 pm to jimmy the leg
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I don’t give two fricks about domestic competitors. If they want to tax THEIR companies, have at it. I gave a rather simplistic analogy. It applies to what was mentioned. Anything else is deflection.
The relevance is clear. Exempting US imports means exempting domestically produced competitors. That's the real reason they don't want to back off VAT. Your hypothetical doesn't even pass legal scrutiny in their courts.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:44 pm to BHM
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Last I heard there were 70 countries lined up wanting to negotiate tariffs with the US. Other than I think Italy and Israel, I have not heard anything about any other country reaching an agreement. Am I just missing the news?
Why would we sign any agreements? I was told we were getting manufacturing jobs. I’ve been ready to grab a wrench and get to work.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:48 pm to Jorts R Us
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The relevance is clear. Exempting US imports means exempting domestically produced competitors. That's the real reason they don't want to back off VAT.
Irrelevant to me.
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Your hypothetical doesn't even pass legal scrutiny in their courts.
Also irrelevant.
They will have a means to tax American produced products while excluding European made one.
This isn’t about what they HAVE DONE, rather what they CAN DO in the future.
Why give them that out?
The only other option is for the USA to bring VAT taxes online.
I’m not in favor of that.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:51 pm to jimmy the leg
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Irrelevant to me.
Do you have a seat at the table?
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Also irrelevant. They will have a means to tax American produced products while excluding European made one. This isn’t about what they HAVE DONE, rather what they CAN DO in the future.
Via VAT?
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:56 pm to Jorts R Us
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You have no idea what they can and can't do. You're just parroting.
I mean, I paid VAT on purchases in Europe for decades.
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Your hypothetical doesn't even pass legal scrutiny in their courts.
Links to this case law?
On another note, who am I parroting? I don’t have X.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 2:02 pm to jimmy the leg
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I mean, I paid VAT on purchases in Europe for decades.
Oh shite! Why didn't you say so?
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Links to this case law?
Japan/1996/shochu
That should keep you busy for a bit.
Glhf!
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 2:06 pm
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