re: How embarrasing was last night for Democrats as a whole?

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Not nearly as embarrassing as the last four years have been for America,

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How so? What has embarrassed you?

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Not nearly as embarrassing as the last four years have been for America, and I fricking hate Democrats.

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I bet you do...

You should consider moving...

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and I fricking hate Democrats

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Jeez, another one of these.

Just give it up, dude. Way smarter than you have tried this bit and failed.

It's really beyond embarassment at this point. But for a significant segment of the electorate what these looneytunes say really doesn't matter. They wouldn't accept the truth if it was staring them in the face, so corrupt are the institutions that we pay to guide them. I'm old enough to remember a time when politicians who peddle the crap these people espouse now were laughed out of town.

Times is changed for sure. I had a daughter enrolled in the local so-called "secular institution of higher learning". What a laugh. The crap your kids and mine are subjected to in these colleges is ridiculous. In terms of values and moral absolutes the culture has been turned upside down. For sure there are good professors and they do a wonderful job, but they're lost in the mix of corrupt assholes who couldn't touch their a-hole if they had too.

My oh my how far have we fallen.

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A lot of jobs Th at were lost have been added back

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people are acting like there will never be another recession. When the next one hits, the government won't be able to borrow any more money than it already is, and the fed's rate has no margin to stimulate investment. The fed will have to charge people to buy bonds. I don't like our chances for a quick recovery from the next recession, we're already running the economy like we're in recession.

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a lot of people like what their retirement looks like.

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They won't when we have to inflate our way out of the crippling debt.

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Looks who is running against trump right now!

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Not just that, but the only one running with a chance to beat Trump isn't woke enough for the ones that run the nomination. They're going to woke themselves right to sleep.

Like I said, at this point in his presidency Bush's approval rating was still higher than Trump's has ever been, and by the end of his final term, no one was willing to own Bush. There's plenty of time for people to disown Trump and talk about what a mistake he was - just like they did with Bush at the end of his second term. People have such short memories.

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With what alternative? Manbearpig? Seriously?

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Maybe one of:
Steve Forbes
Orin Hatch
Or even Pat Buchanan or Herman Cain.

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The most positive thing to come of it was the Democrats miscalculating how their massive voter fraud in Florida would be seen for what it is, setting them back two decades since everyone learned their entire election strategy, which in turn forced them to shift toward importing illegal voters en masse, which in turn led to the modern era’s GOAT being elected and sabotaging their fraud strategy. Now they have to shift to technological election fraud, which can be very easily exposed by any competent computer forensic analyst.

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Oh, I see, you think only one side plays dirty pool.

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In the big picture, a lot of good actually came from an election between the giant douche and the turd sandwich. Had that fraud never been exposed, today’s American flag would feature a hammer and sickle instead of Stars and Stripes.

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Now you're just signing on to the hysteria angle.

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Bush sucked, but Katherine Harris helped save America - at least for a couple more decades.

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She sure didn't keep Obama out.

It was so bad! I'm glad I switched party's 35 years ago, I can't imagine if I were a Dim that BS on stage last night is my hope to defeat Trump......that debate may have switch a few Dims over to MAGA.

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If trump gets us into a vengeance war like bush did with Iraq that turns into a quagmire

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Possible with Iran.

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we have another housing bubble bust like we did in 07

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We currently don't have the capability to counter a recession. How much can the US borrow to stimulate the economy out of a recession? How low can the Fed drop the rate from where it currently is to stimulate investment?

There's no one at the wheel of the monetary policy ship. As a matter of fact, there is very little policy at all in this administration.

As embarrassing as it was it is even more embarrassing to be the type of person who would vote for them. Democrat voters must seriously be insane

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We currently don't have the capability to counter a recession. How much can the US borrow to stimulate the economy out of a recession? How low can the Fed drop the rate from where it currently is to stimulate investment?

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You are correct here. We can’t borrow any more and with rates already this low, lowering them won’t help.

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There's no one at the wheel of the monetary policy ship. As a matter of fact, there is very little policy at all in this administration.

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Now you’re just being insulting. The plans have always been to cut spending while so cutting taxes. The taxes part happened and ironically taxes back into the treasury have never been higher.

Both establishment republicans and democrats fought the spending cuts and that’s why we are in trouble.

You keep saying we won’t recover from a recession, and I agree it will be very hard, but my question is what bubble are you seeing that economists aren’t?

And so far trump has been remarkably restrained in terms of military foreign policy. He’s actually done less than the previous president