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re: How does Alvin Bragg get past the statute of limitations?

Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Random question...what gives Bragg the ability to charge him on federal election charges?




you just replied to my post clearly explaining how

he must get trump, on record, admitting he only did it intending to commit a federal elections crime, and that it wasnt just about making a money grabbing whore telling lies just go away
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:40 pm to
He is Black and you are probably raciss fo axing
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
17685 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:49 pm to
By being an evil piece of shite.

Be like you jaywalking several years ago...and no one thought it was a big deal, but then someone who personally hates you became da, and they twisted that jaywalking thing in such a way to try and turn it into a felony... and attempt to frick you up.

This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14736 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:53 pm to
Nope. Would get laughed out of court...well fck, dem prog filth judge,OMB...you have a point.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33583 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:19 pm to
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Would get laughed out of court

Why?
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1863 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:21 pm to
Something as insignificant as the law is not going to stop them
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131544 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

By arguing that Trump's time residing in DC and Florida tolled/paused the running of the limitation period.
So in other words, if 'Indefatigable' sells a business in Texas, then less than a year later he moves to Georgia, the Texas statute of limitation on fraud supposedly associated with the sale essentially never ends because the defendant no longer lives in state?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15015 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Why must he do this?


Because Trump can simply say that he paid Daniels so she’d STFU and not cause his family any further embarrassment. Unless Bragg has a portal inside Trump’s mind he can’t prove otherwise.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23258 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

The felony pretzel twisting
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The same Judge that oversaw the Trump Org trial, the trail of his CFO, and the one overseeing the Bannon case
=
Democrats are vile human scum Pinkos


They aren't just Pinkos any more, they are more like Mao's Red Guard.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33583 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

So in other words, if 'Indefatigable' sells a business in Texas, then less than a year later he moves to Georgia, the Texas statute of limitation on fraud supposedly associated with the sale essentially never ends because the defendant no longer lives in state?

No, not in any way.

My comment addressed the NY criminal statute of limitations for nonviolent felonies, involving NY courts interpreting NY law.

It isn’t some general principle, and I didn’t just make it up. NY courts have applied their own criminal statutes that way in the past, and so I’m assuming that is how the Manhattan DA is also operating/arguing.

My hypothesis is probably more accurate than “the Manhattan DA is just ignoring the law and saying frick it,” is it not?

I am simply answering the OP.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 6:50 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10571 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

LSUconvert


Convert, like you converted from a male to a female?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131544 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

My comment addressed the NY criminal statute of limitations for nonviolent felonies, involving NY courts interpreting NY law.
So in other words, if 'Indefatigable' sells a business in NY, then less than a year later he moves to Georgia, the NY statute of limitation on fraud supposedly associated with the sale essentially never ends because the defendant no longer lives in NY?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33583 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

So in other words, if 'Indefatigable' sells a business in NY, then less than a year later he moves to Georgia, the NY statute of limitation on fraud supposedly associated with the sale essentially never ends because the defendant no longer lives in NY?

Maybe. It seems that NY criminal law allows for the tolling of the SOL under certain circumstances when the alleged perpetrator is not physically in NY.

Again, just an assumption after some surface level research in order to try and answer the OP with an explanation beyond “they’re just totally ignoring the law”.

I’m not advocating the merits of it. In fact I think it circumvents the entire purpose of having a SOL to begin with. Apparently at least one district of the NY Supreme Court disagrees with my opinion though.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 7:16 pm
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
912 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:16 pm to
No CPL Section 30.10(4) (a) sets a maximum tolling period of five years. Civil fraud has a six year SOL in NY. Criminal actions dealing with fraud range across grand larceny, criminal possession of a forged instrument, forgery, falsifying business records, and identity theft. Thus, you could have an criminal Sol from 2 to 5 years. a charge would have to commence within at least 10 years possibly 7 years) from the last event of the fraud. If the perpetrator moves back to NY within five years then the SOL would expire in two to five years minus the time before they moved

Nevertheless, I have not seen anything that indicates a tolling issue outside this thread. The GJ is conducted in secret, but the commentators I read seem to gravitate toward the lsuhoohoo theory of a five year SOL with the predicate act occurring later

ETAC: difference in criminal fraud ranges
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33583 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Nevertheless, I have not seen anything that indicates a tolling issue outside this thread.

Really? Every decent article I have seen on the subject mentions the apparent SOL issue.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64584 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:40 pm to
But now, Costello has presented information, that Cohen said Trump never knew about the payments, and Trump never payed him( Cohen, in a formal Document ie. Written proof). I would think that if money wasn’t payed, might be a problem, if true…
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6520 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Bragg has a portal inside Trump’s mind he can’t prove otherwise.


There are other ways to prove intent.

Pay attention.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

How is it possible a hack like Bragg passed the NY bar?


parents were both educated.
Bragg went to Harvard and Harvard law.

so much for your attempted smear.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Pitt Road
Floriduh
Member since Aug 2017
979 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

parents were both educated. Bragg went to Harvard and Harvard law. so much for your attempted smear.


So now we know he's a complete dumbfrick.

No smear, fact.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:19 pm to
Bragg will do what his globalist pimp sugar daddy tells him. Definitely a down low brotha.
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