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Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:07 am to
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Different church, same question.


Apples to oranges.

The first was the church making a statement and the second were random church goers at a protest.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:08 am to
You make a cogent policy argument that has no relevance to your assertion regarding Constitutionality.

Taxed or not, churches have prima facia “free speech” argument.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 8:11 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124900 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:13 am to
It’s directly connected. I’ll let you mentally masturbate over this issue that has been settled law for centuries.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294343 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:17 am to
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Different church, same question.


Which church? Looks like individuals to me.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:17 am to
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settled law for centuries.
As usual, you are mistaken. But congrats on avoiding a request that you support your position.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 8:18 am
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27909 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:17 am to
The worst thing for Christianity is Christians - there are schools and colleges that promote religion as careers. Choose your church carefully. There’s probably a thousand of Dino Rizzos across the United States.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124900 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:21 am to
You’re right. It hasn’t been settled law for centuries. Keep tilting, Don Quixote.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61762 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:24 am to
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Different church, same question.





You consistently illuminate why you are on the wrong side of many arguments.

Having a position on a moral issue (abortion) is very different than taking a position for or against a specific politician or political party.

This concept didn't even cross your mind, so you came to a very faulty conclusion (as per the norm for you). FYI, this is very basic logic.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 8:27 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:27 am to
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You’re right. It hasn’t been settled law for centuries. Keep tilting, Don Quixote.
There certainly exists appellate authority for the premise that a taxing authority CAN grant tax exemptions, but I am still waiting for your explanation as to how churches are GUARANTEED tax exemptions under the 1st Amendment.

I will hang up and listen.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26024 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:29 am to
I would just remove the deduction for the taxpayer, keep the church exempt, and let the church be politically active.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50724 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 8:42 am to
My guess is, they want a new church, and are hoping to invite someone to burn down their current one and collect the insurance.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:57 am to
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Different church, same question.
Yep, voting is the same as defending life.
Where do you idiots come from?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23044 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:04 am to
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Because no body cares what baptists do.


They are all going to hell anyway for teaching the false doctrines of...

Once Saved Always saved and Ask Jesus in to your heart and you will be saved.

Blind leaders of the blind
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 10:06 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:13 am to
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Ask Jesus in to your heart and you will be saved.


Just out of curiosity, if not by accepting Jesus into your heart, how else does one get saved?

Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:14 am to
Because no matter what they claim to believe
The bottom line is it’s all about the money.
Take away the tax exempt status and most of holy rolly churches wouldn’t exist
JMO
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23044 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:17 am to
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Just out of curiosity, if not by accepting Jesus into your heart, how else does one get saved?




Show just one scripture that tells one to ask Jesus in to their heart, much less one that tells the sinner to ask Jesus in to their heart to be saved.

I'll save you the trouble. There isn't one. It is a false doctrine.

Edit: I see a believer in false doctrine or satan downvoted me.



This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23044 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:21 am to
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Take away the tax exempt status and most of holy rolly churches wouldn’t exist


Sure many "churches" abuse the tax exempt status.

The problem with taxing a church is that the ability to tax is the ability to destroy.



Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:23 am to
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Sure many "churches" abuse the tax exempt status.




But many many many more do not.

quote:

The problem with taxing a church is that the ability to tax is the ability to destroy.


Very true.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23044 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:29 am to
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I would just remove the deduction for the taxpayer, keep the church exempt, and let the church be politically active.


I would argue that many many people do not declare their church donations against their taxes.

I personally always donate in cash for the very reason that it cant be deducted.

My charitable giving and especially my duty to provide funds to operate church business and help fellow Christians in need is between myself and God, not myself and the government.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:35 am to
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Show just one scripture that tells one to ask Jesus in to their heart, much less one that tells the sinner to ask Jesus in to their heart to be saved.



John 1:9-13
9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Revelation 3:20

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.

I mean, that's certainly not ALL there is to it. One must also repent and live by faith. And by "asking Jesus into your heart", you are really asking Him to take control of your life and be the Lord of your life.

It's not just "Welp, I asked Jesus into my heart. Now I'm covered."
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