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re: How do tariffs bring costs down?

Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35361 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:26 pm to
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he intends to lower fuel costs which should lower transportation costs and thus, the cost of goods.
Thats the one part of cost of living that absolutely won’t be getting significantly cheaper any time soon. You’ve actually been living in the glory days of cheap transportation.
Posted by SWINC
Member since Sep 2022
497 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:29 pm to
Funny how some want a ridiculous minimum wage for Jack shite little work while they aren't even concerned about their fellow man being slaves.
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Oh well
Posted by LSUFANMICK
Colorado Springs
Member since Sep 2009
1240 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:40 pm to
How does raising taxes on the rich solve a government spending problem?
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2891 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:45 pm to
Flat federal sales tax is the most fair way. Not sure why we have to have a complected system where people can find loop holes or just not even pay tax.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25890 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:47 pm to
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It’s an incentive to produce more goods in the USA to make domestic products more competitive. Which provides jobs and tax revenue here

At least that’s the way I see it.


And then once those goods are produced here, the competition keeps prices in check...theoretically.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465012 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:48 pm to
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And then once those goods are produced here, the competition keeps prices in check...theoretically.


*After the initial increase is felt. You're creating a new baseline for the competition.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2787 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 2:48 pm to
Raising the cost of foreign goods helps bring back manufacturing here. Which drives up job growth which causes companies to raise wages to attract employees which means you have more money to spend so additional couple bucks caused by tariffs is a wash because you are earning more money
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 3:26 pm to
We need to do something to stimulate more domestic production of just about everything, especially semiconductors, vehicles and appliances.

And put me down as a supporter of a national consumption tax to replace income tax.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 3:34 pm to
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It’s an incentive to produce more goods in the USA to make domestic products more competitive. Which provides jobs and tax revenue here At least that’s the way I see it.


So Apple is going to shut down their Asian plants and just move everything to the US? Cmon man.

Imagine what an iPhone would cost in that scenario.
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
1188 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 3:37 pm to
Trump is not good with ideas that actually work to reduce costs or anything buisness related to improve that venture.

Only at getting others to give him money.
Then he takes it and runs and then asks for more

And so many want him to run our country, smh.
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294597 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 3:37 pm to
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We need to do something to stimulate more domestic production


If we could, we would.

Busting China will benefit Vietnam and Mexico, not the USA
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2813 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 3:38 pm to
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So Apple is going to shut down their Asian plants and just move everything to the US? Cmon man.

Imagine what an iPhone would cost in that scenario.


Best case is they move to Mexico. Apple is not going to pay someone with a GED $50/hr plus pension and health benefits for life to snap together iPhones.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35650 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 3:45 pm to
Here's the problem with doing the tariffs thing with China. Currency manipulation almost on demand. That blunts the intent of the tariffs overall.

Besides, while some have their panties in a wad over China, Mexico has moved in as our largest trading partner. Lots of US manufacturing is now done in Northern Mexico
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
706 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 4:35 pm to
Tariffs competitively level the wage scale ..
Chine makes goods with slave labor, we don’t. A tariff is placed on goods that would make it cost as much or more than if it were made with US equivalent wages.
That’s what it’s about..the results are more industries producing things in US, which creates a good economy, which reduces inflation…
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3189 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 4:37 pm to
Wasn't this exact same question here last week?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21127 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:19 pm to
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Raising tariffs over a few decades would bring more manufacturing jobs back to the US. It needs to be a slow increase not a huge increase all at once. A large increase of tariffs that fast would probably hurt the stock market and it could effect the value of the dollar.


I generally agree with this. People are short sighted about the need for increased tariffs.
To bring about an increase in American manufacturing, first the rules must be changed to favor America (the whole America first idea).
Presently, the multinational corporations who put profits over people, are against this because they can get products made cheaper overseas.
Why? Because paying children pennies a day allows for much higher profits than paying an American citizen to do the same work.
Therefore, the rules have to be changed to favor Americans. Raising the price on foreign goods, thus allowing Americans to start new businesses and be competitive.
Sure, there might be a lil pain in the beginning...but it's the only way back to where we need to be.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21127 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:20 pm to
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Tariffs competitively level the wage scale ..
Chine makes goods with slave labor, we don’t. A tariff is placed on goods that would make it cost as much or more than if it were made with US equivalent wages.
That’s what it’s about..the results are more industries producing things in US, which creates a good economy, which reduces inflation…


shite!!! Thank you. Well said! Finally, someone who can see the bigger picture!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135345 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:23 pm to
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How do tariffs bring costs down?
Grant China its desired monopoly on critical goods (steel, etc) and we'll readdress your incredibly naive question
Posted by lsutiger90
Cottage Grove, Houston, TX
Member since May 2004
1142 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:25 pm to
They bring China to the table to negotiate is how they bring down cost. Either do as we wish or suffer! They will bow down because they need us.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:43 pm to
We are losing our ability to manufacture anything. We are losing in robotics and the science of manufacturing due to our overly financialized economy.

We are basically becoming a third world country.
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