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re: How can people that believe in more than two genders be taken seriously?

Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45870 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:27 pm to
Gender and sex were interchangeable terms until lefts decided they wanted a way to describe their subjective feelings about themselves differently than what their biology determines.

They say gender is a social construction but it isn't. What they mean is that gender traits (aside from biology) are social constructions. They are actually referring to masculinity and femininity and applying those traits towards an identification that doesn't conform to historical norms.

It's classic deconstructionism. They take something that everyone understands and destroys the meaning so that they can create a new meaning. In this case, they are taking their subjective understanding of gender and replacing sex with it because sex and gender (in their minds) are at odds with one another.

They have psychological issues that need to be treated but instead want everyone else to accept their subjective feelings as reality that is binding on others.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:29 pm to
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MW defines Age: as an individual's development measured in terms of the years requisite for like development of an average individual

More articles about age being a social construct

LINK

MOAR

I can continue if you like? As you can see I can pretend Age is social construct like you can pretend Gender is.


By that definition, the number of years is objective while modifiers describing age (young, old, mature, etc) are subjective. That definition isn't conducive to your giving a false number of years you've been alive on this planet.

Congratulations, you've managed to crush your own argument in a single post
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:30 pm to
I remember a debate with Jordan Peterson and some SJW professor where the later said there were 28 different genders. If I was in that debate, but I couldn’t help myself by making this retort:

“I don’t know what planet you are from but welcome to Earth. There may be 28 genders where you are from, but if you go talk to people around here and travel the countryside, you will find indisputable proof there are only two. You have to be insane to think otherwise, and spare me the intersexed since that is a genetic malformation.”
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 4:31 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Yeah, for the roughly 400 diagnosed cases of true hermaphroditism.

For the rest, it’s quite simple. Dick or pussy.

When I said the issue can be more complex for some, I was thinking more along the lines of those people who struggle with mental health issues; but your point is taken.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:31 pm to
I told a liberal that I identify as TRUMPGender.

They got so offended that they actually told me there were only 2 genders.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
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I told a liberal that I identify as TRUMPGender.


That's hilarious, i'll use that one if given the chance

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85452 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
People can choose gender, race, height, weight, age etc.

You may observe with your eyes that I am a 50 year old pear- shaped white male. But I have decided I am an eleven year old skinny black girl named Shaquilisha . Because obviously, science.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59294 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Mentally ill people do all kinds of crazy stuff



So where's the compassion for the mentally ill?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:36 pm to
It would be great if you would stop adding content to your posts in later edits. Anyway...

quote:

There are only 2 Genders. Male and Female.


Disagree.

quote:

If you have a vagina you are a Female.


I agree that someone with a vagina has the sex of female. Gender unknown.

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END of Story.


Oh my, so persuasive...

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If you cut your penis off you are still male.


From the perspective of sex, I agree.

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I refuse to participate your mental breakdown if you want to play dress up.


Cis-gendered heterosexual male.

Might you be projecting a bit?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:40 pm to
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People can, in fact, choose their gender. In fact, they're doing it.


That only exists in their minds. It's a mental illness.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:42 pm to
For those of you doggedly defending the "there are only two genders" hill, what do you think about the Kinsey Scale?

LINK
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:42 pm to
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How can anyone who believes in Mormonism be taken seriously?

It's ridiculous, but we could do this all day. shite thread.


Apples to oranges.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19845 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:43 pm to
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How does that affect my life one bit?


Your tax dollars are paying for sexchange operations in the social experiment our military has become......assuming(?) you are a taxpayer.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:46 pm to
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So, MW defines "gender" as "the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex".


So what?
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:46 pm to
I don't see why you care. It literally has no effect on your life at all how someone identifies their gender. Also, yes because gender and sex are scientifically different things.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:47 pm to
They won’t be by most sane people
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45870 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:49 pm to
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For those of you doggedly defending the "there are only two genders" hill, what do you think about the Kinsey Scale?
It's another subjective ranking system used by someone who believes everything is a spectrum. Same nonsense as those who bastardized the term "gender" to mean anything that supports subjective self-identification.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:50 pm to
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So what?


So under that definition, one's gender can differ from one's sex. Further, individuals have some measure of control over their gender expression.

It's ok not to like that definition; it's absurd to pretend as though it doesn't exist.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:51 pm to
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It's another subjective ranking system used by someone who believes everything is a spectrum. Same nonsense as those bastardized the term "gender" to mean anything that supports subjective self-identification.


So it's your position that people can only be fully heterosexual or fully homosexual, and further, that everyone is equally heterosexual or homosexual.

The myopia on this thread makes far more sense now.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:51 pm to
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For those of you doggedly defending the "there are only two genders" hill, what do you think about the Kinsey Scale?

Anyone's "scale" or "theory" is just that and only that. You give it validity because it suits your bias.

Objective reality is just that--objective reality. One cannot "scale" or "theory" ones way out of it.
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