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re: How can Israel stop/reverse this polling trend? (Rasmussen).
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:50 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:50 pm to GumboPot
Israel doesnt care. If the Muslim world ever rises up against them again (instead of bought and paid for factions), then the US would be next
They thought we were ripe on 9/11. They changed tactics. They are now infiltrating the US and stealing elections instead (Obama, Biden, Ilhan, Mandami). Either way, once Israel is toast, we are finished
I welcome our sharia overlords. And liberal white women have quite the surprise coming
They thought we were ripe on 9/11. They changed tactics. They are now infiltrating the US and stealing elections instead (Obama, Biden, Ilhan, Mandami). Either way, once Israel is toast, we are finished
I welcome our sharia overlords. And liberal white women have quite the surprise coming
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:53 pm to GumboPot
AIPAC can join the rest and go ahead and register with FARA
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:53 pm to SCLibertarian
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The younger crowd of both political sides are very much distrustful of the Israel lobby due to the fatigue of us being entangled in multiple Middle Eastern conflicts over the last quarter century.
And the GOPe is in a terminal panic over the fact an increasing number of younger conservatives are not kowtowing to the neocon shibboleth that perpetual and unquestionable allegiance to Israel is in America’s best interest. The following video by noted Scofield Cultist …err…I mean Christian Zionist Laurie Cardoza-Moore was made just prior to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
This Israel-First bot is correct; younger conservatives are indeed mocking her kind. And I love it: CRY MORE B*+CH!
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:00 pm to orangebluetiger90
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Will the Jews in America be persecuted along with the Jews in Israel. It’s not cut and dry.
Israel is the church. You don't think God was talking about modern day Israel do you?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:01 pm to orangebluetiger90
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21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” 25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” 26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
No, no dont just post scripture. Give us your interpretation. Im not sure what this passage has to do with the US relationship with the country Israel in 2025.
We are all well aware that God used the Jewish people to give us Jesus, our scripture and build our Church.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:11 pm to orangebluetiger90
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Do you think the prophets and the righteous by faith of the Old Testament will be in heaven (whoever calls on the name of the Lord)?
Since Hell wasn’t a thing until Jesus invented it, it would be a dick move to send them there without telling them about it beforehand. But I guess that’s what happened to all the Asians and Native Americans so you can’t really be sure.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:20 pm to scottydoesntknow
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21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
If you call on Jesus, you will be saved. People of the Old Testament had faith in the Lord, before the Lord Jesus came to Earth, and they were rewarded because of their faith. It doesn’t matter where you live. If you believe in the Lord Jesus, You will be saved. Many Jews say they believe in the Lord but have denied Jesus. Many have converted.
I don’t know how the Jewish people could be saved without proclaiming Jesus as their Savior now, since he came to Earth.
Anyways, I was wrong. Israel is recognized as God’s holy people not necessarily a nation. I think it is important to realize that God loves us all and shows us grace. He doesn’t want one person to perish.
Jews have purposeful place in Christianity (first the Jew, then the gentile). Romans 1:16.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:21 pm to Esquire
First the Jew, then the gentile.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:27 pm to RobbBobb
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Either way, once Israel is toast, we are finished
More importantly we have to stop importing Muslims.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:06 pm to orangebluetiger90
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Anyways, I was wrong. Israel is recognized as God’s holy people not necessarily a nation. I think it is important to realize that God loves us all and shows us grace. He doesn’t want one person to perish.
Jesus is Israel. He fulfilled what the Jews were originally meant to be which was to bring salvation to the world(hence why Jesus says salvation is from the Jews. The Jewish people broke that covenant. Jesus took the place and brought the Word to the world.
The new covenant is with believers in Christ, not just Jews. Believers in Christ are inheritors of the promises to Abraham and Jesus is Israel. Those who bless Israel(Jesus) will be blessed and those who curse Israel(Jesus) will be cursed.
God does seem to have a plan for the Jewish people, which is for them to believe in the end.
I do believe Christians should treat Jews fairly. I do believe we should try and convert them. I dont for a second believe that we should overlook their transgressions and wrongdoing. We should NOT permit them to engage in anti-Christian messaging without pushback. We should NOT overlook their promotion of cultural degeneracy.
I think Martin Luther made very fair observations about Jews that are largely still accurate today
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:13 pm to scottydoesntknow
America turning away from Israel is a consequence of their actions.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:19 pm to Errerrerrwere
We can’t begin to comprehend when the prophecies have or will be fulfilled. There is a alotta information in the Bible, especially about the Jews, that has either passed or may come to pass. As merely humans we don’t know. I don’t know how many more times Israel will fall before the rapture.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:24 pm to orangebluetiger90
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Do you think the prophets and the righteous by faith of the Old Testament will be in heaven (whoever calls on the name of the Lord)? I don’t know, that’s why I am asking.
I think anyone looking at the New Testament as a sequel to the Old is ignorant.
The Abraham Covenant ended with the crucifixion of Christ.
Jesus became the covenant with the people. For those who believed in Him. Old Testament Israel becomes the church.
And He will save everyone who believes in him. Including those Jews who do.
Old Testament Israel is NOT modern day Israel and to conflate the two is heresy. And NOT Christianity.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:25 pm to GumboPot
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How can Israel stop/reverse this polling trend?
Do they have to stop that trend? At one time the idea was that Israel needed American support in order to survive. But does it now?
Maybe they could try taking their hands out of the American taxpayers’ pockets. They are a rich country. Pay for their own defense, etc. A lot of American resentment would go away - at least on the right - if they did that.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:25 pm to orangebluetiger90
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There is a alotta information in the Bible, especially about the Jews, that has either passed or may come to pass. As merely humans we don’t know. I don’t know how many more times Israel will fall before the rapture.
Neat. I absolutely refuse to believe that I am on some end game timeline with the same people who believe my savior is in hell with human excrement on Him.
You can believe this new "Christianity" formed in England. I will not. You are a heretic.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:30 pm to orangebluetiger90
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We can’t begin to comprehend when the prophecies have or will be fulfilled. There is a alotta information in the Bible, especially about the Jews, that has either passed or may come to pass. As merely humans we don’t know. I don’t know how many more times Israel will fall before the rapture.
You can keep repeating this all you want. It doesn't make it right.
I can comprehend the Bible. And I take quite literally "Those who do not know the son will never know the Father."
And I don't need to be fooled by fake prophecies that Jesus warned us about.
I'm good. You can take this back to your Rock n Roll church where you wear khaki shorts, Hawaiian shirts and flip flops too, hippie.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:30 pm to orangebluetiger90
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We can’t begin to comprehend when the prophecies have or will be fulfilled. There is a alotta information in the Bible, especially about the Jews, that has either passed or may come to pass.
Which is why it has always been foolish, and likely sinful to act the way we have with this modern nation of Israel. We think in our arrogance that we can properly interpret prophecies that we were never meant to. When Neocons like Ted Cruz, Mark Levin etc get up and lecture us about how their foreign policy should also be our foreign policy because of "x misinterpreted Bible prophecy" that is a lie straight from Satan
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:32 pm to Errerrerrwere
I have never taken Bible classes on the prophecies. The Father knows all the details. That’s the point I was trying to make.
I believe in Jesus. That the Son of God walked the earth. Died for our sins.
I believe in Jesus. That the Son of God walked the earth. Died for our sins.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:33 pm to Errerrerrwere
You don’t find value in the prophecies of the OT? Do you believe it is not the word of God?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:33 pm to orangebluetiger90
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I believe in Jesus. That the Son of God walked the earth. Died for our sins.
And you believe that the New Testament is talking about modern day Israel as well.
This is where you may be ignorant. That's all.
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