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How bad will the meltdown be in 2020 if Trump wins again?

Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:11 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:11 am
I'm an objective Trump supporter, the EO on the ban was completely mishandled, the fake news thing has become stupid and petty, Sessions is a terrible pick, and the Flynn pick has completely bitten this administration on the arse....

With that said, this "WH under siege" narrative that the left is trying to sell will fall flat in 2020. Why? Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. He's going to build the wall, he's going to initiate tax reform, he's held his word on the refugee situation, he made a very good SCOTUS pick, etc. The complete, insane meltdown of the left along with the swift delivery of many campaign promises is going to secure many of the votes he had in 2016 along with many more if he can continue on this path.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:16 am to
"Draining the swamp" cost Newt his job 4 years later. The bureaucracy will not go down without a fight.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8059 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:17 am to
quote:

How bad will the meltdown be in 2020 if Trump wins again?

It's too early to know.

The far left will never accept Trump, just like the far right never accepted Obama. Trump still has a chance to win a lot of favor over the other 90% of the country, however, and could be leading by a wide margin heading into the 2020 re-election.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12302 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:17 am to
The melt on here when trump gets steamrolled will be a spectacle for the ages
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:18 am to
Not as bad, most of the melters will be in FEMA camps by then
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:18 am to
Who cares?

How about he focuses on things that actually matter besides wall talk and whining about fake news?

Where's the healthcare plan, where's the tax plan, etc

There will be a lot less melting if he actually makes the country better
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:19 am to
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8059 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:19 am to
quote:

The melt on here when trump gets steamrolled will be a spectacle for the ages



I heard this frequently in the days leading up to November 8th, friend-o.
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3592 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:20 am to
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The melt on here when trump gets steamrolled will be a spectacle for the ages
I respect your opinion. Who will be driving the steamroller for the Dems?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:21 am to
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How bad will the meltdown be in 2020 if Trump wins again?
If he lowers taxes, repeals obamacare, expands GDP, fixes immigration, etc., he'll be re-elected.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Who cares?



My point is the narrative that the left with is only reinforced by people who did not vote for him

quote:

Where's the healthcare plan, where's the tax plan, etc



On the way, I'm sure.


quote:

There will be a lot less melting if he actually makes the country better




Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:24 am to
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There will be a lot less melting if he actually makes the country better


There's the rub though. No matter how much he may "improve" things for the betterment of the country, nearly half will deem it detrimental to the country.

The argument of "if" will always be left up to interpretation.
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2854 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:25 am to
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The melt on here when trump gets steamrolled will be a spectacle for the ages


Sounds familiar. Is this a recycled post from before the election?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:

I'm an objective Trump supporter, the EO on the ban was completely mishandled, the fake news thing has become stupid and petty, Sessions is a terrible pick, and the Flynn pick has completely bitten this administration on the arse....
Doesnt sound objective. Sound like Dem talking points.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

There's the rub though. No matter how much he may "improve" things for the betterment of the country, nearly half will deem it detrimental to the country.

The argument of "if" will always be left up to interpretation.


Exactly. The goalposts will always be moved. Improve the lives of the middle class? "Homelessness is now a crisis!" "What about the poor!"

Improve climate for business, "he's a capitalist pig!!"


Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:27 am to
Well those irrational loonies do not matter

A reasonable/intelligent person will accept the improvements and vote accordingly

If things do improve, he will have my vote

Although I doubt he runs again. It's a pretty shitty job.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Well those irrational loonies do not matter
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The media gives them their talking points
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:33 am to
I think you underestimate the average person's ability to adapt.

There will always be opposition to Trump but if he brings back jobs, the economy improves, he somehow installs an ACA replacement that covers everyone and is cheaper, and crime decreases appreciably, he will begrudgingly gain support from the left. There would be no insane meltdown.
Posted by Chazzy McRamzee
Member since Jun 2014
2681 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:35 am to
Solid thread.

Posted by FrenchToast
The French Kitchen
Member since Jan 2016
1810 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:43 am to
They will move to Canada?

.... Oh Wait!
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