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re: House Passes Voting Rights Legislation: Sets Up Senate Showdown EDIT Page 2: Sinema A NO
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:30 am to 14&Counting
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:30 am to 14&Counting
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Republicans are united in their opposition, arguing elections should be run on the state level instead of on a national one.
That's what the constitution says anyway
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Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:30 am to jchamil
I don’t think you can offer him enough at this point to sell out one of the reddest states in the country to the fed govt.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:31 am to finchmeister08
Permanent majorities have been their goal since they lost control of Congress for the first time in over 60 years in 1994.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:33 am to 14&Counting
Just remember as the talking points go out that the minority is holding the country hostage and threatening democracy, what they are attempting requires an amendment to the Constitution. That requires something like 3/4 of the states and 2/3 of the Congress to ratify. They are the ones threatening the Constitution and Democracy by stealing the rights of the states.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:34 am to JawjaTigah
I don’t think there is a chance in hell that the Court rules it unconstitutional. The constitution pretty much gives control to the Congress. They have allowed states to run things, but they do have the power to take that back. The courts will not save us if this thing passes.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:35 am to JawjaTigah
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The only dim hope left if this abomination passes is for SCOTUS to take a deep breath and declare it UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Notice I said DIM hope
If I were a governor, I'd tell the feds to frick themselves and instruct my state police to arrest ANYONE trying to enforce this bullshite law - including any fricking federal judge
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:39 am to DeathValley85
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Remind me again who doesn't have the right to vote.
All the illegals and their anchor babies we just imported
Got to pump those numbers up
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:41 am to 14&Counting
It's been dead. All of this is just a formality. You won't get all democrats+10 Republicans. Even Mitt Romney is extremely against this and the only other path is removing the filibuster which is also very dead. It's over for the dems.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:41 am to 14&Counting
Sinema just killed it stating that she will not vote for killing the filibuster.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:42 am to maanTigrepig
Kyrsten Simena made it clear she will not support a call from her party leaders to kill the filibuster in order to pass voting rights legislation
Her 19 minute speech essentially killed Dem efforts to pass voting legislation
The House passed a voting rights bill on Thursday and sent it to the Senate
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Her 19 minute speech essentially killed Dem efforts to pass voting legislation
The House passed a voting rights bill on Thursday and sent it to the Senate
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Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:32 pm to FlyingTiger1955
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This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:35 pm to FlyingTiger1955
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I don’t think there is a chance in hell that the Court rules it unconstitutional. The constitution pretty much gives control to the Congress.
The Constitution does NOT give Congress the authority to controls elections. The Constitution grants that power to the states to decide.
LINK: Votefortheconstitution.com
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:41 pm to CDawson
My question has been this since jump street:
The Constitution guarantees states govern their own voting rights, so if Dumbshitee Shumur somehow got this through would the Constitution not come into play and override? Or Feds block this and it go to the USSC?
You smart folks help me with this.
The Constitution guarantees states govern their own voting rights, so if Dumbshitee Shumur somehow got this through would the Constitution not come into play and override? Or Feds block this and it go to the USSC?
You smart folks help me with this.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:44 pm to Bandit1980
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would the Constitution not come into play and override? Or Feds block this and it go to the USSC?
I think the plan is that they would throw this out and the Supreme Court would stall until after the election and then they'd have another fully rigged election. That or it really is just about helping Schumer get through the primary with AOC on his heels.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:46 pm to Bandit1980
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The Constitution guarantees states govern their own voting rights, so if Dumbshitee Shumur somehow got this through would the Constitution not come into play and override? Or Feds block this and it go to the USSC?
You smart folks help me with this.
There would be immediate suits from half of the states to injoin or block the new bill. Similar to the OSHA mandates, there would probably be one consolidated appeal and then on to SCOTUS from there.
Since it would not be effective for the midterms even if they pass it, the Court would probably hear and decide the case in 2023.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:49 pm to squid_hunt
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, what they are attempting requires an amendment to the Constitution
What are they are trying to do is a horrible idea and will be the death knell of the country but it's not necessarily unconstitutional. Article I Section 4 of the Constitution explicitly gives Congress the authority to alter any state law overseeing the time, place, and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives - other than the place for choosing Senators.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:55 pm to MFn GIMP
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gives Congress the authority to alter any state law overseeing the time, place, and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives
So they are specifically targeting reps and senators only? Because this is being portrayed as the entire federal election process.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:56 pm to FlyingTiger1955
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I read something today that said Schumer can bring it several times fail and change the rules without a vote. It sounds like they will get it rammed through despite Manchin and Sinema.
Do they know that would ignite extremists? Do they care?
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:56 pm to idlewatcher
I would love to see the election of U S Senators return to the individual State House of Representatives.
It completely removes the political animal from the equation.
It completely removes the political animal from the equation.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:57 pm to MFn GIMP
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Article I Section 4 of the Constitution explicitly gives Congress the authority to alter any state law overseeing the time, place, and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives
This does not give Congress the power to override the States on how Electors are chosen--only for Congress. Pretty sure that the Voting Act Dems want to pass deals with POTUS elections as well.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 1:25 pm
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