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re: Historians: Obama is the 12th best POTUS

Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:11 am to
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highest rated since President Ronald Reagan,


Clinton presided over peace and prosperity and balanced the budget. Any ranking of Obama above WJC isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101687 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:11 am to
If you remove the curve for him being a bisexual mixed race Muslim he's 35th
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:11 am to
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So much for this boards fantasy of him being the worst. The experts have spoken.

Historians are experts att evaluating government policy?

ROFLMAO
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74463 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:12 am to
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He had to rebuild the fricking economy. Of course there's going to be debt


Yea thats what works at home. When we are taking in less money in our household budget we use the TJ/BHO method to get out.
"Spend more."



PS
He did not rebuild sh!t.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
79399 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:14 am to
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and he did a terrible job of it.



This. The real median income declined.

He was a disaster on foreign policy. It's hard to make the Middle East a bigger dumpster fire but he did it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:16 am to
Current historians are notoriously leftist.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:16 am to
Uh no. They're far more qualified than your dumbass.

Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:17 am to
who to believe.

historians or coonasses

this is tough guys i need a few seconds to weigh everything
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6296 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:18 am to
He's not nearly as bad as this board makes him out to be. Not sure about 12th overall tho.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:19 am to
Ok. Take his response to the recession away. The failed stimulus, food stamps... take it all away

He still shite the bed on healthcare, cash for clunkers, immigration, the bergdahl swap, the Iranian ransom, Syria, race relations, the national debt, benghazi, us bond status, relations with russia, and on and on...

Now we are learning that his administration was spying on political enemies, allied leaders, and reporters. He is bitter, polarizing, and partisan.

He was a failure by any objective measure. He will be held in a special place in American history because he is black, but he wasn't a good president.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by Langland
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:19 am to
Best at lying, at being two faced. Best at holding a grudge and the best at playing victim.
Posted by CaptChandler
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:22 am to
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So much for this boards fantasy of him being the worst. The experts have spoken


You're dumber than I thought...
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10688 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:24 am to
If this was about shooting free throws I might concede he could be in the top 12. Maybe.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:29 am to
Looking at the rankings I can't quibble with having him in the middle of the pack. But that's a reflection on the competition.
Posted by tidalmouse
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:32 am to
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:33 am to
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The experts 





Posted by CaptChandler
Polis
Member since Sep 2016
2427 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 11:37 am to
In all seriousness, I think that 10-20 years from now is the proper time to make a full assessment of Obama's presidency. Now I disagreed with 95% of his policies, but as of right now I'd put him in the late 20s/low 30s ranking-wise. Not the worst president we've ever had, but he shouldn't even sniff the top 10.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4936 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Republicans don't give a frick about spending either.


Neither did you, until November 9, 2016...
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125649 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 12:05 pm to
Liberal arts professors rank him the 12the best POTUS? That's embassingly low. He should be top 5 by virtue of being black. Pretty strong admission of failure by these historians.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29395 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Clinton presided over peace and prosperity and balanced the budget. Any ranking of Obama above WJC isn't worth the paper it's written on.



Bubba Clinton gutted the military, while I was in it, and raided the SSN trust-fund money. He also allowed NK to get nukes.

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