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re: Hispanic Grocery stores randomly popping up every where

Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
1937 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:00 pm to
I like them too, but I’ve also been with a Latina for the past 6 years. Nothing wrong with Latin groceries and stores (I love them), but I think the point OP is making that they are popping up in large quantities everywhere to capture the new markets with population growth.

“Ideal Market” on Terry Parkway and on Airline in Kenner, has the best skirt steak for fajitas (ready-made) or can buy marinated raw and cook it yourself and an-open buffet line for carry-out. If anyone hasn’t tried it, it’s a great last minute dinner spot to bring home & Throw down. Homemade soups and other dishes as well.

BUTTTT, I heard it is Moooslum owned, not 100% confirmed if that is correct or not, but that’s a major bummer on that note.

I don’t live over there anymore, so I haven’t had it in a long time.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12000 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:02 pm to
Hell, the "Natives" won't work. Somebody needs to supply our products.
Natives have EBT cards and a disability check.

On the local Morning News. they showed a Grandmother getting food from Free food pantry. They mentioned that the grandmother grew up dependent on free food, her children were reared on free food, and now her grandchildren are being fed free food.
The problem, as explained by the TV host, "the grandmother didn't have a can opener. What good is food without a can opener"
Three generations without the intellect to open a can of food.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Hell, the "Natives" won't work. Somebody needs to supply our products.
Natives have EBT cards and a disability check.
Natives will work but not for the slave wages that illegal immigrants will. There's no denying we have problems with our native population. So is the answer to ignore them and import millions of people who will also leach off our welfare system and turn states blue?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20005 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:15 pm to
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There's nothing white trash about locking down the border and pushing back against people who insult Americans in this country in favor of illegal immigrants.

Jesus, pal. Where the frick do you live?

I haven’t lived in Texas for a few years now, but am there regularly to see family. The VAST majority of Texans I know are able to differentiate between the border problem and the people. There is some grumbling sometimes, but prevailing sentiment I recall is that they add a lot more than they subtract, and they are overwhelmingly glad to be here and don’t insult the place.

Could it have changed since I left, and am I just not noticing it when I am there? Possibly, but I doubt it.

You want to paint the entire population but the actions of some activist-spurred minority. My guess is that you spend very little time around the people you admit that that you hate.

Unfortunately, bigots like you are what the left gets to point to when they insist all Republican voters are racist.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:16 pm to
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When whites do the same thing in minority neighborhoods, it's called gentrification by people like you and demonized


I couldn't give 2 shits about where whites open businesses.

Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15195 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:30 pm to
He needs to make a more clear point then, because his statement was open ended. What he said insinuates that he has an issue with Spanish people, and it’s bad that there are Hispanic grocery stores popping up everywhere. There needs to be a more clear distinction, especially since we ask ourselves all the time, why do Spanish speaking people, who are more traditional and conservative, vote Democrat? Probably because of statements like OP and other conservative voters said. Insinuating that you have an issue with a certain culture or demographic of people. Of course they’re not going to vote for the party that screams that kind of ignorance. Conservatives just need to be smarter with their choice of words.
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20005 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Leave it to BayouBlitz to miss the point of an argument.


OK. What is the central point in the OP?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46155 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:35 pm to
30-40 years ago KCMO had a relatively small Hispanic area just southwest of the core of downtown KC....now there are 2-3 areas around the KC metro that are Hispanic neighborhoods......my guess is the Hispanic population in KC has quadrupled the past 30 years.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21628 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:07 pm to
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OK. What is the central point in the OP?


It's not about restaurants and what sort of food they serve. It's about people not assimilating. Not learning the native language? Flying your own nation's flags? Not adopting native customs?

Commonalities amongst the citizenry are essentially the social fabric that holds communities together. You don't need everyone to be exactly alike, but you do need most people to line up on most issues. Language, music, sports, dress, food, there's a whole list of things that Americans do share in common.

Having pockets of non-assimilating immigrants who do not share the majority of those things are just holes in our social fabric. Sure, it can take a few holes here and there, but we're importing, illegally and at our own expense mind you, millions of immigrants into our country each year. If a single family moves into a neighborhood and is surrounded by American culture, they'll assimilate. If hundreds of families move into an area in quick succession there's no longer pressure to adopt American cultural norms because there are plenty of families similar to you nearby. You don't need to learn English, there are already businesses that speak your own language nearby. You don't need to develop a taste for American interests and entertainment, there are lots of people around you that already share your own nation's interests and entertainment.

Too many holes in our social fabric will have negative consequences. Just like you're not going to be close with someone who you have nothing in common with, communities without similarities aren't going to get along as well as communities that share a lot in common.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8091 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:23 pm to
Need to get the MAGA hat sales folks out there to stock their shelves.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:24 pm to
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You want to paint the entire population but the actions of some activist-spurred minority. My guess is that you spend very little time around the people you admit that that you hate.

Unfortunately, bigots like you are what the left gets to point to when they insist all Republican voters are racist.
I don't hate anyone. I dislike people who have no respect for this nation or its laws.

I can make an economic argument: "At the start of 2023, the net cost of illegal immigration for the United States – at the federal, state, and local levels – was at least $150.7 billion." (The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers | 2023 Cost Study)

I can make the crime argument: "Increased Illegal Immigration Brings Increased Crime: Almost 2/3 of Federal Arrests Involve Noncitizens" (Heritage Foundation, 2023)

I can make an assimilation argument: It's a problem of volume. When you have a large wave of immigrants with a distinct culture, they'll feel less social pressure to assimilate if they need only ever rely on fellow immigrants for social needs. The larger and more distinct the immigrant group, the less likely they are to assimilate. This isn't a new problem in America; we've seen this before with other waves of immigrants (e.g. Italians, Germans, Irish). The difference then was that those waves ended.

But I don't think I need to make any of those arguments to justify my stance on zero tolerance. American citizens don't need a list of reasons for why they have the right to decide who enters this country. Americans don't have the right to enter into Canada and demand to be accommodated. The same is true here. How many states need to turn blue before people realize the problem we're facing?
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53846 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:25 pm to
I’ve quit paying taxes, they can suck my dick. I can win a jury trial in the panhandle of Florida with a jury of working class Americans. This government no longer represents me.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:26 pm to
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I’ve quit paying taxes, they can suck my dick. I can win a jury trial in the panhandle of Florida with a jury of working class Americans. This government no longer represents me.



Good luck in prison.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21628 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I don't hate anyone. I dislike people who have no respect for this nation or its laws.

I can make an economic argument: "At the start of 2023, the net cost of illegal immigration for the United States – at the federal, state, and local levels – was at least $150.7 billion." (The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers | 2023 Cost Study)

I can make the crime argument: "Increased Illegal Immigration Brings Increased Crime: Almost 2/3 of Federal Arrests Involve Noncitizens" (Heritage Foundation, 2023)

I can make an assimilation argument: It's a problem of volume. When you have a large wave of immigrants with a distinct culture, they'll feel less social pressure to assimilate if they need only ever rely on fellow immigrants for social needs. The larger and more distinct the immigrant group, the less likely they are to assimilate. This isn't a new problem in America; we've seen this before with other waves of immigrants (e.g. Italians, Germans, Irish). The difference then was that those waves ended.

But I don't think I need to make any of those arguments to justify my stance on zero tolerance. American citizens don't need a list of reasons for why they have the right to decide who enters this country. Americans don't have the right to enter into Canada and demand to be accommodated. The same is true here. How many states need to turn blue before people realize the problem we're facing?


Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:28 pm to
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I can win a jury trial in the panhandle of Florida with a jury of working class Americans.


Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36096 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:40 pm to
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How many states need to turn blue before people realize the problem we're facing?

Here's a look at the governments to our immediate south in Central America:

Mexico: left-wing government
Guatemala: just elected a leftist as President
Honduras: left-wing government
Nicaragua: socialist dictatorship
Costa Rica: left-wing government
Panama: left-wing government

Americans think that because Hispanics are Catholic and religious, they're conservative. What we don't understand is that Marxist liberation theology permeated the Catholic Church in Latin America from the 1960's onwards. There's a reason every Spanish-speaking country in Central America (save for El Salvador) is ruled by leftists.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Americans think that because Hispanics are Catholic and religious, they're conservative. What we don't understand is that Marxist liberation theology permeated the Catholic Church in Latin America from the 1960's onwards. There's a reason every Spanish-speaking country in Central America (save for El Salvador) is ruled by leftists.


It's because the very few who ran the country for most of it's existence employed a subjugation/extraction philosophy that left most of the populace destitute. Marxism, for the most part gains footholds in countries with extreme wealth inequalities.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20005 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Having pockets of non-assimilating immigrants who do not share the majority of those things are just holes in our social fabric. Sure, it can take a few holes here and there, but we're importing, illegally and at our own expense mind you, millions of immigrants into our country each year. If a single family moves into a neighborhood and is surrounded by American culture, they'll assimilate. If hundreds of families move into an area in quick succession there's no longer pressure to adopt American cultural norms because there are plenty of families similar to you nearby. You don't need to learn English, there are already businesses that speak your own language nearby. You don't need to develop a taste for American interests and entertainment, there are lots of people around you that already share your own nation's interests and entertainment.


All that from a grocery store?

Look, I get that assimilation is important, but so is a tapestry of mixed inputs.

You want monoculture? Move to Northern Minnesota where all the food is meat and potatoes, ketchup is "spicy", Polish is "ethnic", the music is interchangeable, and the people are so damn sure that they are the enlightened ones because they have never had their worldviews challenged. You'd love it here. All white people.

Jewish quarters are some of the most fascinating places to visit in European towns and cities. Same with Chinatown, Little India, or Arab Street in Singapore. Hell, for that matter, there are communities inside the walls of the Old City in Jerusalem for both Jews and Muslims, and they get along a lot better than media would have you believe.

Now, if places are creating closed off ghettos where outsiders are intimidated and targeted, or if they refuse to learn our language, that's fair to criticize. That being said, it's also something where the comfort of your own language does not mean that it's "easy" to get by without learning the local lingo. When I lived in Japan, I could get by without knowing any Japanese. That didn't make it "easy", and I still worked to learn it. I just didn't show up knowing it and I spent time with other English speakers because it got exhausting to struggle ALL the time with a new language.

To rail against them for being different AND working to be part of America? You sound silly.
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 3:52 pm to
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Hispanic Grocery stores randomly popping up every where

Sounds like a good thing to me
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73453 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 3:53 pm to
Why is that power bottom?
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