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re: Hillary thinks 1984 is about the importance of trusting politicians and the media

Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:14 am to
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Anyone who believes she wrote one word of that book is fooling themselves, she simply did a poor job editing her ghost writer. lol


Hitler didn't write "Mein Kampf" either, per se. Hess did. The sentiments were no less Hitler's.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:16 am to
If ever anything explains now dangerous she is, this is it, damn
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12127 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:27 am to
My favorite book. She has it completely backwards, and is a pathetic ignoramus.
It is her side who is trying to rewrite and erase history, and build mistrust of all that is good through control of oral media, written media and education.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:33 am to
Well believing this..

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she's arguing for totalitarianism


Requires a rather unsupportable belief in this...

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while our system has most of those things tied up in partisan propaganda for one side (her side)


Of course I know well that most here believe implicitly that "our system" is completely devoid of actual ideological pluralism--in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34920 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:42 am to
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Of course I know well that most here believe implicitly that "our system" is completely devoid of actual ideological pluralism--in spite of all evidence to the contrary.


I don't think "most" of us believe that, NT; hell, the very fact that our System's economic viability is being challenged by overtly 'Socialist' Policy (Entitlements) is proof of Ideological diversity.

What Conservatives fear, is that Global Progressives would like to and in fact are attempting to utterly discredit (morally), invalidate and totally remove the Conservative Ideology (Individualist/God Paradigm) from power...and even from the Historical Record. Therein, the catfight.

Good to see you back.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13562 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:47 am to
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Why are there so many Hillary Clinton topics here? Is she even relevant anymore? Even Trump has moved on from her.




Its like a car wreck. You know you shouldn't look but you HAVE to.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:32 am to
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Hillary thinks 1984 is about the importance of trusting politicians and the media


How did you get that from this passage? In 1984 the govt teaches that only big brother can be trusted. Very similar to how Trump calls everything fake news and divides people.

Everything is conquer and devour to that megalomaniac. Im sorry youre not getting it. Really.

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She's fricking insane.


She sucks but she isnt wrong
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:34 am to
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Very similar to how Trump calls everything fake news and divides people.
Not even remotely close. Have you ever read the book?

Damn dude.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12127 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:35 am to
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How did you get that from this passage? In 1984 the govt teaches that only big brother can be trusted. Very similar to how Trump calls everything fake news and divides people. 



In the 2017 case Big Brother is the media and the Swamp. Get with reality....
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108441 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:36 am to
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In 1984 the govt teaches that only big brother can be trusted. Very similar to how Trump calls everything fake news and divides people.



Trump ran on a platform that the establishment was totally fricked up and crooked. Hillary is the most establishment candidate in American History. What are you talking about?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:41 am to
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What Conservatives fear, is that Global Progressives would like to and in fact are attempting to utterly discredit (morally)


Give me a break. So conservatives are the ones with morals? Whats the weather like up there on your pedestal?

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invalidate and totally remove the Conservative Ideology (Individualist/God Paradigm) 


Its true thatmost of us don't like fairy tales pushed on us or our youth. As far as individuals go, you guys are late.

With as many people as there are in this world, we need to come together and stop pretending like its 1850 and we're living away from others. You guys need to learn to accept and move forward.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:42 am to
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Not even remotely close. Have you ever read the book?

Damn dude.


I have. Tell me how im wrong?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:44 am to
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Trump ran on a platform that the establishment was totally fricked up and crooked. Hillary is the most establishment candidate in American History. What are you talking about?


Trumps is the one who tells you media is lying to you and to trust only him. That is 1984. Dont know why that is hard.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:44 am to
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and to trust only him.
Nope
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:45 am to
Where do I start? You don't even remotely have the theme of the book correct. And you go downhill from there.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:45 am to
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In the 2017 case Big Brother is the media and the Swamp. Get with reality....


Because Trump says so. Thats my point. A vast media and congressional conspiracy or Trump is full of shite? Im going with the latter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422561 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:45 am to
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In 1984 the govt teaches that only big brother can be trusted. Very similar to how Trump calls everything fake news and divides people.

and that's not similar to HRC promoting us plebs have to trust "leaders" like herself?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:46 am to
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The body of evidence suggests she's dumb as a rock and always has been




Dumb people don't make as much money and get away with as many crimes as this woman has in her life.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:46 am to
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Nope


One word more than you usually conjure. Tell me, oh wise one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422561 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:47 am to
1. Media - dominated by her side
2. Polls - the 2016 election showed they're horribly skewed to favor DEMs
3. SMEs - much more neutral than the others but expertise has been shown to be untrustworthy (look at how we can't replicate studies in all fields) and biased to the liberal side (eliminating the ability to study/discuss certain issues)
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