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Here’s what trump is doing

Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:50 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10436 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:50 am
Trump is going to play king maker for a while. The end game is a New party.

Rather than just roll it out now, they’re going to fund raise and then start promoting national and high level state candidates in select areas to compete with Republican candidates. If he can become a king maker as they expect then within 3 years, expect a new party.

If he cannot get the traction that they expect within 1 year then the Republican Party is likely to become very moderate to liberal. The trump movement will dwindle.

We’re at the crossroads politically. This is the moment in time where new parties either get formed or squashed. Trump has a lot of enemies on all sides right now but political attitudes change quickly with wins. He will need some early wins to get the traction and then keep the momentum going.

Trump will need the media to some extent but he also needs to villify them. The msm media (including fox) is going to have fits with it but it’ll be fun to watch.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by Chico Valdez
Member since Dec 2020
223 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:51 am to
We can only hope.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:51 am to
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The end game is a New party.


Oh great! Democrat super majorities and enormous Electoral College mandates. Awesome end game.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:52 am to
If the end result of trump consolidating power is unmitigated democrat rule, why are they so afraid of him?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:53 am to
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If the end result of trump consolidating power is unmitigated democrat rule, why are they so afraid of him?


I don’t understand what you are asking, but I’m not speaking for Democrats regardless. A third party that splits the GOP vote will accomplish nothing outside of electing Trumpish candidates in ruby red districts and states, and the Democrats winning everywhere else.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:55 am to
It’s pretty simple.

You assert trump splitting up the GOP will allow the democrats to come into complete power.

One must assume if tigerdroppings posters know this, democrat leadership knows this.

If trump starting his own party is good for democrats, why have they gone to such great lengths to destroy him after he left office?
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:59 am to
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Oh great! Democrat super majorities and enormous Electoral College mandates. Awesome end game.


LOL at you people that still think elections matter
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:00 am to
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you people that still think elections matter


Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12511 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:00 am to
They’re just going to slowly take over the Republican Party imo
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30354 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:01 am to
Dominion will not need to have 'water main breakage' at 4:01 am. It will change votes, real time by a ratio of 2:1. Techies have all of 2021 and 22 to make sure of this.

Screw parties and voting. If Texas doesn't secede before 2022, it's over, baws.

Frogs in pots. Wake up.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 8:03 am
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
1653 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:07 am to
He has an incredibly challenging road ahead in terms of shaping the conservative conversation. People in this country are getting so conditioned to having wokeness shoved down their throat in every aspect of their life that it becomes quietly accepted by many that opposition to progressiveness is hate

Give them credit for the branding and PR work they've done moving the goalposts. When their issue du jour is empowering trannys and exposing you to that in everyday life, the center becomes alot further left than it was just a few short years ago. And any talk about traditional family values begins to sound like hate and intolerance
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56375 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:13 am to
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If trump starting his own party is good for democrats, why have they gone to such great lengths to destroy him after he left office?

They've done nothing to "destroy" Trump. They knew from the beginning that impeachment would fail.

The fact that the first two posters in this thread are noobs who seem to have a strong desire for 3 party fragmentation - should clue you in.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:19 am to
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trump starting his own party is good for democrats, why have they gone to such great lengths to destroy him after he left office?


Because they hate him and want to destroy his legacy? They want revenge for him ever having been elected in the first place. We’ve known for years that it would be this way when he left office.

You think it’s because they are scared of a third party run? Because only the RNC is worried about a third party run.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73851 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:20 am to
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You think it’s because they are scared of a third party run? Because only the RNC is worried about a third party run.



Sure
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20280 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:21 am to
You’re assuming all the voters that don’t go to the new party will automatically vote democrat. You are also assuming that the new party wouldn’t caucus with the Republican Party. Those are false premises.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:21 am to
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LOL at you people that still think elections matter



I can’t wait for the midterm GOP gains just so this dumb comment will stop.

Republicans could have easily taken both Georgia seats two months after the POTUS election....but the GA GOP didn’t turn out like they had in November. Dominion didn’t cause that, and neither did Democrats.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:22 am to
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Dominion will not need to have 'water main breakage' at 4:01 am.


Don't forget the new stopping of the election count during the night so they can determine how many more illegitimate ballots they need to add to the count.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:23 am to
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but the GA GOP didn’t turn out like they had in November.


So, you think they will magically turn out in 2022? Many will not toe the party line any longer, so the GOP better get creative in selecting their candidates and quit trotting out the same, tired trash...
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:24 am to
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You’re assuming all the voters that don’t go to the new party will automatically vote democrat.


What? I’m saying if you take the current vote share for both parties, and split the GOP in any significant way, that Democrats will easily. Nothing about new voters or anyone moving to the Democrats.

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You are also assuming that the new party wouldn’t caucus with the Republican Party.


Caucusing has NOTHING to do with my point. They can caucus together all they want once in office. There won’t be enough of them and the GOP to obtain a majority, ever. They’ll be competing for the same voter base in elections, and the Democrats will retain their entire base.

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Those are false premises.


I hold neither of those assumptions, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:25 am to
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So, you think they will magically turn out in 2022? Many will not toe the party line any longer, so the GOP better get creative in selecting their candidates and quit trotting out the same, tired trash...


Exhibit A to my point that Republican voters lost the elections in Georgia. Nothing to do with Democrats, voting machines, or anything else. Pure bad turnout.
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