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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:31 pm to kcon70
Shooter had a pump shotgun and a revolver.
How again would banning AR's stop this, liberals?
How again would banning AR's stop this, liberals?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:32 pm to bmy
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Taking a gun as a temporary precautionary measure from people who appear mentally ill can be regulatory in nature.
I don't think you understand rights. Also, callign something 'regulatory' doesn't make it so.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:32 pm to Yak
quote:frick you. I'm 51!
You're still my favorite old curmudgeonly fart if that helps any
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:33 pm to Wolfhound45
Liberals blame guns and (oddly) video games. But here's some facts:
The overall murder rate is far lower today than in 1991 (when it was at it's peak). Millions of people own guns yet only 0.001% of them go on shooting sprees.
Millions of people play FPS video games, yet only 0.001% of them go on shooting rampages. Hell I'm a grown damn man and I still fire up CoD from time to time.
Millions of people use social media, FB and Twitter, yet only 0.001% of them go on shooting sprees.
Therefore it is demonstrably true that neither guns or video games or FB cause this phenomenon.
Now, I'm not picking on just libs.
Conservatives will blame lack of religion and morals, but the truth is 99.99% of atheists will never go on shooting rampages. Conservatives will also blame the breakdown of families, which I agree is a bad thing, but the truth is MOST kids these days are from broken families and 99.99% of them don't go on shooting rampages.
So what's the cause? Beats me, but it's not as simple as saying "guns" or "video games or "Facebook" or "single moms". Maybe all play a role in some way, but it's not obvious how.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:34 pm to AUstar
That Emma bitch from Parkland is tweeting. I wonder if she'll be held to task over her bullying of Cruz. Of course not. The MSM would never do that.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:38 pm to kcon70
It's time the government treats schools like prison. Metal detectors, checkpoints, pat downs and anyone who brings a gun on school grounds should be charged with conspiracy to commit terroristic acts. Also this pos's should be charged with accessory to murder.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:39 pm to AUstar
quote:Eh, most people who blame video games tend to be more conservative leaning and religious, based on my experience
Liberals blame guns and (oddly) video games. But here's some facts:
But the gun part, yeah, liberals all day
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:41 pm to TJGator1215
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Metal detectors, checkpoints, pat downs and anyone who brings a gun on school grounds should be charged with conspiracy to commit terroristic acts.
Unconstitutional.
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Also this pos's should be charged with accessory to murder.
Unconstitutional.
Pearl clutching does not address this.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:47 pm to starsandstripes
You're incorrect on both points.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:53 pm to alphaandomega
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How long before it is confirmed that the shooter was white? 99% of the time that is the case...
fixed that for you
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:54 pm to The Spleen
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Here's a link to a Google search of "where do Chicago guns come from." Take your pick on the link to click.
And? Nice dodge. If your claim is that more guns lead to more gun crime, and that it's the guns that are the problem, why do those states with more reasonable gun laws, and more guns, have lower rates of gun crimes?
Street culture and gang life is the problem. Dumb thugs..mostly black and hispanic are the source of the problems with guns, not guns themselves. You would have to be either reeeeally dumb or brainwashed to not be able to identify that fact.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:57 pm to bmy
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Taking a gun as a temporary precautionary measure from people who appear mentally ill can be regulatory in nature. 2A is not unlimited.
Thats nice.
The problem is that the majority of the perps haven't shown any dangerous mental illness problems.
There are procedures already in existence that can restrict someone who can be shown to be a danger to themselves or others.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:01 pm to Dale51
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Nice dodge
Dodge? You asked for evidence of my assertion that guns in Chicago come from outside Chicago.
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If your claim is that more guns lead to more gun crime
Nope. Haven't made that claim in this thread.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:04 pm to Houma Sapien
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Homeboy claimed the 2nd amendment saved more lives than it killed. I asked him to back it up. Learn to read
Learn to read, indeed.
I pointed out a CDC report that showed that guns are used in over 2,000,000 defensive acts a years.
Just to get a gauge on how much you know the subject...how many unjustifiable gun deaths are there in an average year? You seem to think its over a million or two?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:06 pm to Dale51
Just take guns away from MK Ultra victims and miraculously these shootings will go away.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:08 pm to The Spleen
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My only original claim he questioned was that the majority of guns in Chicago come from outside Chicago. He's the on that interjected some other argument that I've ignored.
You're still wrong. You're only counting illegally obtained guns. I suspect that legal guns owners purchasing guns in other states are part of those stats?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:12 pm to BamaAtl
quote:freedom is not a fetish. It is what makes life worth living.
because you have a weird fetish.
That has a cost a high cost at times but it is much less than the cost of not doing so
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:15 pm to cahoots
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Guns don’t require physical and mental engagement?
Yes..they require physical and mental engagement. Everything does. That doesn't mean going target shooting is the equivalent to working the remote for your TV.
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Only exists as a program? A program is 1s and 0s stored on a physical disk.
Thats the point. It can't be equated with a gun. You tried to imply if you can blame a computer program for violence, you must also blame the gun.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:20 pm to ShortyRob
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My only original claim he questioned was that the majority of guns in Chicago come from outside Chicago. He's the on that interjected some other argument that I've ignored.
He's still wrong.
How many of those guns..bought legally outside of Illinois, were then stolen by thugs in Illinois?
The image it seems he is trying to create is that thugs are going out of state to legally buy guns and bring them back to Chicago. It's a form of lying via statistics.
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