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Helping of Crow
Posted on 9/29/17 at 5:57 am
Posted on 9/29/17 at 5:57 am
I know it is late in the week and old news at this point but I said I would be around for my serving of crow if Roy Moore won...
And he won...
Never really was against him, just at the time that I made the statement, I was betting that the money from the GOPe would crush him...
And he won...
Never really was against him, just at the time that I made the statement, I was betting that the money from the GOPe would crush him...
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:01 am to The Maj
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I was betting that the money from the GOPe would crush him
Betting men usually stick with the trend. The recent trend of nationalized elections has been that the big spenders lose.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:03 am to The Maj
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I was betting that the money from the GOPe would crush him...
We've had numerous examples over the past few years that having the most money is not the end all be all and not 100% guarantee of success.
Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, David Vitter and Luther Strange all had the most money and they still lost because they did not engage with the voters and give them a personal and substantial reason to vote for them or just pissed them off beyond belief that money couldn't replace anger with a reluctant vote.
It's not having the most money that counts, it's what you do with that money that determines your success or lack thereof.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:06 am to Sentrius
Even Bernie spent more money than Hillary and lost (the Democrat Primary).
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:10 am to Sentrius
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It's not having the most money that counts, it's what you do with that money that determines your success or lack thereof.
I agree to an extent but had Strange not been tangled in the Bentley scandal, his money would have made more of a difference... This was a case of people having their mind made up and it did not matter how many calls or ads they were not changing their minds...
Sort of reminds me of when the Dem's stole the nomination for governor from Graddick and in turn the people elected Guy Hunt (I am not calling Roy Moore, Guy Hunt)... They were mad and elected a Republican Governor, which didn't happen back then as much...
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:30 am to The Maj
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RAY Moore won
FIFY
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:25 am to The Maj
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I agree to an extent but had Strange not been tangled in the Bentley scandal, his money would have made more of a difference... This was a case of people having their mind made up and it did not matter how many calls or ads they were not changing their minds...
You mean if strange would have done more to help Trump's (the people's) agenda. No amount of money was going to help Strange when he obstructs this administration. Trump is a result of the movement by the people. He didn't create the movement and he doesn't control the movement. Strange chose to ignore the movement and paid for it properly.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:34 am to notsince98
My neighbor keeps saying that Moore winning is in some ways a repudiation of Trump, too. I'm not sure about that, but either way this election is clearly a case of voters in Alabama having terribleterrible choices and not liking to be told what to do.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:38 am to notsince98
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You mean if strange would have done more to help Trump's (the people's) agenda. No amount of money was going to help Strange when he obstructs this administration. Trump is a result of the movement by the people. He didn't create the movement and he doesn't control the movement. Strange chose to ignore the movement and paid for it properly.
No, I meant what I said and quite frankly, Strange was not in there long enough to be a major player in Trump's agenda OR an obstructionist. You obviously forgot that Trump endorsed Strange, which if not for his being tangled in Bentley's scandals and playing a part in it would have been enough for him to beat Roy Moore...
Just to be clear, I did not vote for Strange and would not vote for Strange and I was not campaigning for Strange... I simply did not believe that he would lose at the time that I made the comment that I did...
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:56 am to The Maj
I have voiced my opinion here and said I was a Mo Brooks voter in the primary. When Trump backed Luther I told my wife that he must of worked out a deal with McConnell of some sort. After listening to Trump on Friday prior to the election in Huntsville and stated that he was feeling that Moore would win and said he would come down and campaign for Moore in the general election I started to think he knew that Moore would win and made the deal with McConnell knowing that. Trump has a win - win! He gets a conservative who will not be a lap dog like Strange would have been to McConnell and will get from McConnell what ever the deal was for him campaigning for Strange.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:59 am to The Maj
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No, I meant what I said and quite frankly, Strange was not in there long enough to be a major player in Trump's agenda OR an obstructionist. You obviously forgot that Trump endorsed Strange, which if not for his being tangled in Bentley's scandals and playing a part in it would have been enough for him to beat Roy Moore...
I didn't forget anything. Search my posts on the topic. From day 1 I said Trump does not want Strange to win that nomination and the endorsement was meaningless. He was merely playing politics to keep the GOPe quiet for a while among some other reasons. Trump specifically sent Bannon out there to get it done because the movement follows Bannon closely.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:05 am to GumboPot
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FWIW here is a thread I posted a couple of days ago concerning the trend of recent big spending politicians losing nationalized elections: LINK
People wanting money out of politics looks like it is becoming THE political driver these days.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:12 am to notsince98
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Search my posts on the topic.
No need, I have no issue with what you said I don't live my life by this board. If you say you said it, then you said it...
However, regardless of the why, Trump still endorsed and for most uninformed voters in Alabama that would have been enough to sway things, had Strange not been totally wrapped up in the Bentley scandal which most in Alabama were not going to forget...
If Trump endorsed, not really wanting Strange in office, then he was playing a really dangerous game that could have backfired on him... Personally, I think he did not know either candidate, other than possibly Mo Brooks, and went on the word of one of his advisers with the endorsement...
Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:17 am to The Maj
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No need, I have no issue with what you said I don't live my life by this board. If you say you said it, then you said it...
However, regardless of the why, Trump still endorsed and for most uninformed voters in Alabama that would have been enough to sway things, had Strange not been totally wrapped up in the Bentley scandal which most in Alabama were not going to forget...
If Trump endorsed, not really wanting Strange in office, then he was playing a really dangerous game that could have backfired on him... Personally, I think he did not know either candidate, other than possibly Mo Brooks, and went on the word of one of his advisers with the endorsement...
You are still missing the key piece in all this. If you are a betting man, follow bannon. Trump has to play politics and is irrelevant at this point unless he decides to burn the GOP to the ground.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:31 am to The Maj
Anyone can be wrong, and everyone is wrong everyday.
But real men eat crow in public!
Never let a photo opportunity pass you by!
But real men eat crow in public!
Never let a photo opportunity pass you by!
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