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re: Hegseth explains why “unlawful order” means something different inside the military
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You dream about sucking Ds
You are a weirdo
You are a weirdo
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:37 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:
Aren't military orders presumed lawful?
Not really. You are taught you can still be punished for things like war crimes even if you are just following orders.
I'm a bit confused by the OP. I really don't see how anyone could be confused here. I mean people might could be encouraged to disobey a lawful order, but the odds of something being an unlawful order is just basically none.
And if you are just a grunt and you disobey an order, you'll be punished for it.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:40 pm to 3down10
Easy judge Boasberg rules the military can't do something.
Drumpf says do it anyway.
Douchebag Dems come a running yowling about illegal orders.
Lawsuits fly.
Enlisted dudes caught in the middle
Douchebags cheer.
Drumpf says do it anyway.
Douchebag Dems come a running yowling about illegal orders.
Lawsuits fly.
Enlisted dudes caught in the middle
Douchebags cheer.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:45 pm to 3down10
quote:
And if you are just a grunt and you disobey an order, you'll be punished for it.
All Trump had to do is agree with their statements, and put it back in their lap. He would have been in control of the narrative, and Dems would have to out themselves if they pushed further.
But of course, he's got to go into hysterics and lose the high ground.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:59 pm to Jbird
quote:
Easy judge Boasberg rules the military can't do something.
Drumpf says do it anyway.
Douchebag Dems come a running yowling about illegal orders.
Lawsuits fly.
Enlisted the dudes caught in the middle
Douchebags cheer.
I guess.
Wouldn't confuse me because judges aren't in the chain of command and such things certainly don't fall under any type of unlawful order I was taught about.
Unlawful order = kill that civilian over there.
Not obeying an order because some judge said something rather than following the chain of command isn't even something I've even remotely considered.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:00 pm to riccoar
quote:
And you believe men can become women
Less that and more that it's not my goddamned business what other people do.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:07 pm to 3down10
Well as military member you can be charged in a civilian court.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:29 pm to Jbird
quote:
Well as military member you can be charged in a civilian court.
For civilian crimes. I'm no lawyer or anything, but I can't imagine a legal battle within the federal government is going to trigger that.
I can only say I don't think what's an unlawful order is confusing. You follow the chain of command which has the president at the top, and unlawful orders are things like raping, killing, robbing people etc.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:32 pm to 3down10
In this day ang age that statement by assholes was intended to muddy those waters.
They will get a judge to rule. Then attack I have no doubt they will.
They will get a judge to rule. Then attack I have no doubt they will.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:44 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Well, it's not an obvious one because it isn't true, so unless you have a third option, you've answered that yourself.
Is “sedition is punishable by death” a problem statement or just a very obvious one?
quote:
18 U.S.C. § 2384 — Seditious Conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,
conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States,
or to levy war against them,
or to oppose by force the authority thereof,
or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States,
or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof,
they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:59 pm to northshorebamaman
Anybody whose ever been in the Military knows Unlawful Orders , the UCMJ, Department Heads masquerading as "Legal Officers", Brasses interpretation of an Unlawful Order, and the odds of ever seeing a Judicial Process is crossing a Ouiji Board, a Star Chamber, and a Voodoo Doll.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:03 pm to Placekicker
I’m not sure why the opinion of the most unqualified Secretary of Defense in history means much..,
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:06 pm to VOR
Why what did that frick Lloyd Austin say?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:12 pm to Jbird
quote:
Easy judge Boasberg rules the military can't do something.
Has zero authority.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:14 pm to Ponchy Tiger
They are in the city operating.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:18 pm to Jbird
quote:
They are in the city operating.
I don't give a shite. A judge has zero authority over the military.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:19 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Then posse comitatus doesn't apply to the military.
Sweet.
Tell them they can't charge PFC chuckle nuts with a DUI.
Sweet.
Tell them they can't charge PFC chuckle nuts with a DUI.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 7:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Then you believe there will be prosecutions, correct?
Do I believe there should be prosecutions? Yes, and if found guilty they should hang.
Do I believe there will be prosecutions? No. The system is broken, possibly beyond repair.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:14 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:
Do I believe there will be prosecutions? No. The system is broken, possibly beyond repair.
DC needs to be defunded, but no one has the guts.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:47 pm to Placekicker
quote:
What the Seditious Six have done is to plant the seed. With every order, they are now going to think- “is this lawful?” “Am I going to get prosecuted for executing this order when the Dems get back into power?”
Hmmm… pretty much everyone I know that WAs an active member of the military stated they were taught to not follow unlawful orders while in boot camp.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 8:48 pm
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