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re: Has it occurred to anyone that it is Mexico that is dumping their illegal aliens
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:46 am to tigress77
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:46 am to tigress77
They have been actively encouraging their poor mestizos to move North for over a generation. They see it as an investment in their future - ship the unskilled "burdens" to the wealthy U.S., while they focus on growing their long-neglected middle class.
Just 40 years ago, Mexico was a 2-class society.
Just 40 years ago, Mexico was a 2-class society.
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 9:22 am to Ace Midnight
You do understand that companies like Hormel, Tyson, Kraft, ConAgra, and the like love illegal immigrants in the US since it means they can pay people cheaper and keep your food bill down.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 9:36 am to tigress77
Yes. Every thinking person who tries to observe current domestic events has realized that this is going on. The extent to which it is all intentional is the question.
I lean towards the position that it's all quite intentional and part of a deliberate Democrat plan to fundamentally transform the US electorate.
Keep voting Democrat, America !
We are almost there !
PS I'm quite sure that big corporations don't mind some illegal aliens to keep their labor costs down, but, I feel certain that a FedGov that was not totally dysfunctional could control the invasion in a legal and orderly manner.
That way, the financial motivations of these corporations could be held in check by a functional and rational FedGov. If only we had a functional and rational FedGov that was not being run by New Left Radical activists.
I lean towards the position that it's all quite intentional and part of a deliberate Democrat plan to fundamentally transform the US electorate.
Keep voting Democrat, America !
We are almost there !
PS I'm quite sure that big corporations don't mind some illegal aliens to keep their labor costs down, but, I feel certain that a FedGov that was not totally dysfunctional could control the invasion in a legal and orderly manner.
That way, the financial motivations of these corporations could be held in check by a functional and rational FedGov. If only we had a functional and rational FedGov that was not being run by New Left Radical activists.
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 9:40 am
Posted on 11/1/14 at 9:38 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
You do understand that companies like Hormel, Tyson, Kraft, ConAgra, and the like love illegal immigrants in the US since it means they can pay people cheaper and keep your food bill down.
So we should have stronger border control like socialist and communist nations?
Posted on 11/1/14 at 9:58 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
They have been actively encouraging their poor mestizos to move North for over a generation. They see it as an investment in their future - ship the unskilled "burdens" to the wealthy U.S., while they focus on growing their long-neglected middle class.
Did they invite them all back in 2008?
Posted on 11/1/14 at 10:00 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
You do understand that companies like Hormel, Tyson, Kraft, ConAgra, and the like love illegal immigrants in the US since it means they can pay people cheaper and keep your food bill down.
If we legalize those workers, they get fired, go on benefits and Mexico exports and U.S. Chamber of Commerce, working hand-in-hand with the Democrat party (with their willing accomplises, the RINOs), imports an entire new crop of off-book, "sub minimum" wage workers, so that in 15 to 25 years - we'll have ANOTHER immigration crisis and the "need" to legalize another batch of millions of illegal immigrants.
Rinse. Repeat. Until it is time for the big flush.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 10:01 am to cwill
quote:
Did they invite them all back in 2008?
No. We invited them to send many, many more in 2008. We're about to invite, effectively, all of them in a few days.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 10:08 am to tigress77
quote:Well, I have heard people say that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Communist bent on destroying America, so I am sure there are people who would think that Mexico is dumping their illegal aliens on the US.
Has it occurred to anyone that it is Mexico that is dumping their illegal aliens
But wouldn't it be more anti-Obama of you to think that Obama is somehow conspiring with Mexico to do this? Maybe you should go with that instead since if it Mexico doing it on their own then we can't blame Obama as much.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 10:22 am to mmcgrath
Think of the Mariel boatlift and multiply by 1000. Letting Cubans come to America. Send us your crazies and criminals.
quote:LINK
The exodus was organized by Cuban-Americans with the agreement of Cuban president Fidel Castro. The exodus started to have negative political implications for U.S. president Jimmy Carter when it was discovered that a number of the exiles had been released from Cuban jails and mental health facilities.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 12:50 pm to tigress77
It used to be that immigrants were hard working individuals looking to better themselves.
But with open borders, we are getting the derelicts, diseased and lazy who are just looking for govt assistance of any kind.
But with open borders, we are getting the derelicts, diseased and lazy who are just looking for govt assistance of any kind.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 12:55 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:I have heard a large number of "good old days" arguments but I don't think I've seen this slant yet.
It used to be that immigrants were hard working individuals looking to better themselves.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 1:19 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
But with open borders, we are getting the derelicts, diseased and lazy who are just looking for govt assistance of any kind.
Verifiably false.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 1:22 pm to cwill
quote:By La Raza.
Verifiably false.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 1:25 pm to tigress77
And it's s little weird to revisit a 4.5 month old thread and not bringing an update but responding only to a noninformational post.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 1:30 pm to tigress77
quote:
Mexico unlike this Admin has a very strict immigration policy that is enforced. Those entering Mexico from elsewhere are jailed and deported.
I can see you've never crossed the border! When you drive from Tijuana to San Diego, if the line to the border crossing is a mile long, you're on a good day. The agents check your ID, check your trunk, ask your business and sometimes have dogs.
Drive from San Diego to Tijuana and the only problem you encounter is figuring how much you have to slow down from 70 mph so you don't hit the unmanned booth at the crossing.
On the left here are cars zooming in from the US into Mexico. On the right is the border which you claim is a lot easier to get in.
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 11/1/14 at 3:09 pm to ItNeverRains
So we should have stronger border control like socialist and communist nations?
Socialist countries have strong control of who enters the country BECAUSE they know that large influxes of people will COLLAPSE the Social Services System.
Communist countries WANT large groups coming into their country, (there was actually a program in the former Soviet Union), BECAUSE they know these groups will SUPPORT them.
As the former Soviet in charge of immigration in the USSR said his job was to offer immigration to as many as possible to Russia and Soviet controlled countries, "To de-stabilize the society" so the party in charge, the Communist Party could stay in control.
You can't understand that if a Society is in chaos, in turmoil,(because of policies for the most part) that society can not mount a successful movement to overthrow the party in charge.
Even the Soviets understood that. That is why anyone could easily immigrate to the former U.S.S.R.
It's getting out that was the problem, not getting in.
Socialist countries have strong control of who enters the country BECAUSE they know that large influxes of people will COLLAPSE the Social Services System.
Communist countries WANT large groups coming into their country, (there was actually a program in the former Soviet Union), BECAUSE they know these groups will SUPPORT them.
As the former Soviet in charge of immigration in the USSR said his job was to offer immigration to as many as possible to Russia and Soviet controlled countries, "To de-stabilize the society" so the party in charge, the Communist Party could stay in control.
You can't understand that if a Society is in chaos, in turmoil,(because of policies for the most part) that society can not mount a successful movement to overthrow the party in charge.
Even the Soviets understood that. That is why anyone could easily immigrate to the former U.S.S.R.
It's getting out that was the problem, not getting in.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 3:22 pm to Vegas Bengal
WoW, a picture on the WRONG ASSumption.
MEXICO wants an open NORTHERN BORDER for themselves.
They DO NOT want and HAVE very strict immigration laws that they enforce to ANYONE entering illegally their SOUTHERN BORDER. They do NOT want anyone entering Mexico from any country south of their own.
Btw, this Marine did not intend to enter Mexico; he spent 7 months in prison while BO released rapists, murderers, robbers that were here ILLEGALLY Back into OUR SOCIETY.
You cannot understand that executive action by this Admin puts our society at risk? At best it is stupidity. At worst it is an ongoing attempt to de-stabilize society in order to exert MORE government control.
MEXICO wants an open NORTHERN BORDER for themselves.
They DO NOT want and HAVE very strict immigration laws that they enforce to ANYONE entering illegally their SOUTHERN BORDER. They do NOT want anyone entering Mexico from any country south of their own.
Btw, this Marine did not intend to enter Mexico; he spent 7 months in prison while BO released rapists, murderers, robbers that were here ILLEGALLY Back into OUR SOCIETY.
You cannot understand that executive action by this Admin puts our society at risk? At best it is stupidity. At worst it is an ongoing attempt to de-stabilize society in order to exert MORE government control.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:13 pm to cwill
quote:
Verifiably false.
Link?
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:42 pm to cwill
quote:
his accidental crossing has been called into question.
Hate to derail the thread, but what's this about?
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:37 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Are you implying that is the entire border? I think you might be that dumb.
On the right is the border which you claim is a lot easier to get in.
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