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re: Has a full blown Leftist Government ever NOT ended in chaos and Gov't murdering its ppl?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:14 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:14 pm to mmcgrath
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Individual freedoms and rights are generally considered "liberal" or "left" thinking.
I agree with the liberal part, classic liberal that is, but Leftism as we know it today bears very little resemblance to our national history.
The post I was responding to you said the US was historically a left leaning country which I still say is very imnacurate without some clarification of what you mean by "left", because you can't really be referring to the common definition of "left" as it is used today.
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Civil rights are hardly "authoritarian". While they violate part of the ideology of individual rights, they protect the rights of some in a "civil" society. Probably wouldn't have been needed if outright discrimination didn't continue well into the 20th century.
Not any more
The American left is moving toward authoritarianism
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:30 pm to CptRusty
quote:The terms today are misused to the point of being useless. Capitalism vs Socialism vs full fledged Communism can be found in authoritarian and liberal governments alike. Really Communism is all by itself.
I agree with the liberal part, classic liberal that is, but Leftism as we know it today bears very little resemblance to our national history.
The post I was responding to you said the US was historically a left leaning country which I still say is very imnacurate without some clarification of what you mean by "left", because you can't really be referring to the common definition of "left" as it is used today.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably more economic freedom than the USA.
How so? Living under Big Brother (who takes 60% of your income, if you make more than $50K) is more free than the US because how?
Did you know?
In Sweden, the Tax Agency can reject your choice of a name for your newborn child?
In Sweden, if you change addresses, you must inform the tax agency within one week?
In Sweden, you cannot be buried until your family provides a certificate from the tax agency to the funeral home?
In Sweden you have to get approval from the tax agency before you can get married.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm not on their "team,"
Sure you're not.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:41 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Rape capital of the west whose immigration policies have it on pace to become an economic third world country by 2030. Good example.
Sweden
quote:Health care system imploding. See above.
Denmark
And this is with the infusion of 60% taxation.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:11 pm to Zach
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The USSR broke up without much violence. It surely didn't start out that way
Yes.
But that was not the question asked.
I get your point and your sarcasm Zack because I have seen your posting style on this board for a long time--but to those who don't, they also murdered 100+ Million people over the last 70 + years to get to the point of a peaceful dissolution of authoritative communism in 1990.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:44 pm to mmcgrath
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Civil rights are hardly "authoritarian".
Passing laws forcing people to adhere to your version of "morality" is definitely authoritarian.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:45 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm not on their "team,"
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Sure you're not.
You're stupid enough to believe that.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I can read your posts - there's no big secret that you're a Republican, even if you quietly tell yourself that you're not "that" kind of Republican. 
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:03 pm to BamaAtl
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there's no big secret that you're a Republican,
Wrong, idiot.
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even if you quietly tell yourself that you're not "that" kind of Republican.
Another swing and a miss...
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Anyone who isn't authoritarian left is a "Republican" to you.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Wrong, idiot.
Yeah, your posts decrying "leftists" are very non-Republican of you.
You can think you're not a Republican all you want (ooh, are you an edgy libertarian?), but you're a Republican.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:18 pm to BamaAtl
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Yeah, your posts decrying "leftists" are very non-Republican of you.
You don't have to be a Republican to dislike the authoritarian left.
You are the most naïve fricker on this board.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You don't have to be a Republican to dislike the authoritarian left.
You do to think a post about "leftists" isn't a Republican point.
You must be the most deluded motherfricker here today. High bar, but you're clearing it!
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:23 pm to BamaAtl
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You do to think a post about "leftists" isn't a Republican point.
What a simpleton. You know what else is a Republican point? A strong military
So, everyone who believes in a strong military is a Republican in your world
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You know what else is a Republican point? A strong military
Not really, no. Or else you guys wouldn't have elected a draft dodger.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:26 pm to BamaAtl
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Or else you guys wouldn't have elected a draft dodger
I didn't vote for him
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I didn't vote for him
Gary Johnson? (still a Republican)
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:33 pm to BamaAtl
Ga
Not when he ran
quote:
ry Johnson? (still a Republican)
Not when he ran
Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:44 pm to mmcgrath
quote:In classical liberalism, not Progressivism.
Individual freedoms and rights are generally considered "liberal" or "left" thinking.
There hasn't been a classical liberal in the Democratic Party in decades.
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