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re: Hamas announces Iran will now be their ‘largest backer’ of military and financial aid

Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80254 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:18 pm to
That's an informative article. thanks.

Placeholder until a more comprehensive plan can be put in place.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:21 pm to
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Trump has no tools at his disposal to rescind the deal in practice?




rescind what?

the deal was Obozo gave them cash and wont monitor them.

What can trump rescind?

seriously.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80254 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:22 pm to
Certifying precludes snapback sanctions. CA posted a good article on the last page about the mechanisms
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30025 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:26 pm to
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Are those not valid questions?

Can we not ask why Trump has continued a deal for 8 months that he railed against for two years?

At some point you'll have to stop being mindless fan boys and answer some questions for yourself.


and what do you suggest he do??????????????

do you think they will return the $450 billion in cash we delivered to them on a pallet????????????

come on, we are waiting for your wonderful wisdome to explain just WTF can trump do now "after the fact"? they got everything up front.

so if we cancel the deal, that in fact never was a deal, but and outright surrender to them, then even the smallest semblence of anything we got from the deal, will be gone, even though about all we get out of it, is some fake inspections, and fraudulent monitoring that they themselves control
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

That's an informative article. thanks.

Placeholder until a more comprehensive plan can be put in place.


boosie are you turning into an unbiased pugilist?
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:28 pm to
What an unworthy POTUS he was. Borderline traitor.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:51 am to
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do you think they will return the $450 billion in cash we delivered to them on a pallet????????????
I heard it was $100 trillion. Might as well go all in if we are going to make up numbers.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42602 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 4:39 am to
Thank you Barack HUSSEIN Obama, you fricking disgrace to humanity.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21905 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 5:26 am to
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Is the Iran deal going to be Trump's version of Obama's Gitmo?

Run your mouth as a candidate but get the super secret info as HNIC and realize this is actually the best option?

I think Trump has certified compliance two or three times. Why not simply tear the deal up day one
?



There is no deal here.

Obama gave everything away. We actually have zero recourse if they don't comply.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:34 am to
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Is the Iran deal going to be Trump's version of Obama's Gitmo?



Why don't you keep up with the fricking news?

TRUMP TARGETING IRAN DEALyou keep up with the fricking news?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 7:02 am to
Breitbart agrees with obama. 150billion.
Not 450billion.

Ps. Huckabee opines 5 trillion.
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 7:03 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 7:09 am to
I thought the ayatollah was major backer for years.
I believe so. Assad no longer major contributor; hamas giving props to remaining meddlers.
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 7:11 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 7:17 am to
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boosiebadazz


You might want to do some fact finding before making an arse of yourself (and then upvoting your arse making skills).

Trump can't do anything but sanction Iran and even with that, Obama probably wrote a clause in there saying that we can't do that. The Iranians made obama their bitch during those negotiations. obama shouldve stuck with organize bbqs and free cell phone drives in the community.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:42 am to
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There is no deal here.

Obama gave everything away. We actually have zero recourse if they don't comply.



That's not the problem with the deal. The problem is that it was written in a way that allows room for varying interpretations. Meaning the US could feasibly argue that Iran isn't following it while Iran can feasibly argue that they are. It's the kind of deal that functions more like a pretext to war thanna truly diplomatic action. I'm fairly confident that wasn't unintentional.

The US has sanctioned Iran for decades and nothing good comes from it. Probably the only notable impact of the sanctions has been to completely isolated Iran from US diplomatic akd economic efforts and policy. The snap back provisions would really only matter if Iranians are allowed to build enough economic activity around the lifted sanctions that it will matter if it "snaps back". We aren't even close to that now. In fact, we were closer to it in the sanctions riddled Bush and Ahmadinajad era than we ever were under Obama or trump.

The US primary leverage over Iran is via potential kinetic action like airstrikes or ground war or subversion of their regional operations. The latter being something the US has failed miserably at since 2001. In fact Iran is far more influential since 2001. Which is hilarious.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:51 am to
Iran is fricking flush now, so, why not?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17998 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 8:56 am to
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TRUMP TARGETING IRAN DEALyou keep up with the fricking news?


Tillerson has been exposed. He is a dead man walking. Trump can't replace him soon enough.
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