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Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:35 pm to Numberwang
How have the left destroyed the family? They made dads leave their seed in someone they never planned to have a further relationship with?
I believe Christians are doing just fine with an avid Christian as VP and a semi Christian as president who upholds Christian values.
Quit blaming the Left for your problems. Hate is the issue.
Hating ppl that think differently than u is more of a problem than anything the left has done. Hating people that look or act differently than u isn't helping anyone buddy.
I believe Christians are doing just fine with an avid Christian as VP and a semi Christian as president who upholds Christian values.
Quit blaming the Left for your problems. Hate is the issue.
Hating ppl that think differently than u is more of a problem than anything the left has done. Hating people that look or act differently than u isn't helping anyone buddy.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:37 pm to AmericaOverParties
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How have the left destroyed the family?
This can't be a serious question. Even most honest lefties would admit their side has been committed to the destruction of family values because it is a Christian staple.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:41 pm to The Boat
quote:No matter he was in a white separatist group and had documented mental issues
You're blaming the left for a kid who brought a gun to school and killed 17 people.
Pathetic.
Yeah. I am.
It is pathetic, but not surprising
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:42 pm to JuiceTerry
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No matter he was in a white separatist group
What does that have to do with it not being related to leftist teaching?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:47 pm to JuiceTerry
Gonna need some more investigating into a Hispanic guy being in a white separatist group.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:57 pm to The Boat
IMO, we as a society have done several things that have contributed to this type of issue.
1) We have elevated feelings to the top of the cahin as far as importance, not accomplishments, duties,etc. If you feel slighted, it is someone elses fault, etc.
2)Society in general wants to see action and overt anger in response to perceived slights. Look at how popular the argue-type shows are. Every reality show has everyone in red-faced rages when they are upset. If you don't respond with outrage to every slight, you are not to be respected. Heck, look at the Rant and how often people say they want a coach to 'yell' and 'get in someone's face', as if to say that those are the only ways that a person can deal with an issue. No one admires the guy that can diffuse a situation with calmness.
3) We have given THE GUN a talisman-like power at the same time (and probably partially because) as we have huge segments of the population who are totally unfamiliar with a gun, what it does, how it works, etc.
So, now we have a kid with feelings of inadequacy, who blames the world for how he feels and for how he isn't what he wants to be. He has been bombarded with images of how strong folks respond by pushing back, hard, against those that stand against them. He is aware of this powerful device that will make the world bend to his wishes. Although he knows he will likely die, he will go out with power and glory. Of course, this isn't a completely stable person mentally so he doesn't see the issue like someone more stable would.
So, he shoots up a school or movie theater or whatever.
Why is it when guns were more common in daily life ( I don't mean more numerous, just more common-- shotguns and rifles in the back of trucks/cars at school etc) were these events less common? Hell, 2 kids could have a fight at school, and one or both could have a gun in the truck, but neither would dream of going to get it ?
When we can answer that question we will be getting somewhere.
1) We have elevated feelings to the top of the cahin as far as importance, not accomplishments, duties,etc. If you feel slighted, it is someone elses fault, etc.
2)Society in general wants to see action and overt anger in response to perceived slights. Look at how popular the argue-type shows are. Every reality show has everyone in red-faced rages when they are upset. If you don't respond with outrage to every slight, you are not to be respected. Heck, look at the Rant and how often people say they want a coach to 'yell' and 'get in someone's face', as if to say that those are the only ways that a person can deal with an issue. No one admires the guy that can diffuse a situation with calmness.
3) We have given THE GUN a talisman-like power at the same time (and probably partially because) as we have huge segments of the population who are totally unfamiliar with a gun, what it does, how it works, etc.
So, now we have a kid with feelings of inadequacy, who blames the world for how he feels and for how he isn't what he wants to be. He has been bombarded with images of how strong folks respond by pushing back, hard, against those that stand against them. He is aware of this powerful device that will make the world bend to his wishes. Although he knows he will likely die, he will go out with power and glory. Of course, this isn't a completely stable person mentally so he doesn't see the issue like someone more stable would.
So, he shoots up a school or movie theater or whatever.
Why is it when guns were more common in daily life ( I don't mean more numerous, just more common-- shotguns and rifles in the back of trucks/cars at school etc) were these events less common? Hell, 2 kids could have a fight at school, and one or both could have a gun in the truck, but neither would dream of going to get it ?
When we can answer that question we will be getting somewhere.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:03 pm to JimboFisherAM
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You're blaming the left for a kid who brought a gun to school and killed 17 people.
You're goddam right.
The radical left wing nihilists are the root cause of all this bullshite.
This does not stem from traditional American values - it was unheard of before the left wing radicals infected every vestige of education and entertainment and politics.
There once was a common thread of decency, honor, responsibility, charity, that was instilled in us by our parents, reinforced in the education system and protected by the political classes. Political differences were about who had the best approach to reach a common goal.
With the advent of 'great society' mentality the 'progressive' DEMOCRAT party left all honor behind and began a crusade based on differences and perceived greivances.
ALL that has happened since DEMs started buying political power with other people's money. First they destroyed the nuclear family unit. Then they instilled hatred of successful people and fed marginal mentalities with visions of being 'disrespected.'
Yes, this entire dystopia is directly attributable to the prog/DEM/MSM cabal.
Live with it.
pathetic.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:05 pm to The Boat
The Boat is an expert on childhood development and education?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:06 pm to JimboFisherAM
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JimboFisherAM
Part of the problem
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:07 pm to The Boat
quote:Investigate what reasons he might have for being a self hater
Gonna need some more investigating into a Hispanic guy being in a white separatist group.
Perhaps being abandoned by his real parents? Maybe hating his adoptive parents? Could be any number of reasons.
Hitler was a jew
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:09 pm to Pelican fan99
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two parent Christian household
Yeah because two parent Buddhist/Hindu/Mormon households are terrible right? Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on being a decent religion. As a matter of fact it's probably middle to bottom of the back when it comes to being peaceful.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:09 pm to The Boat
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The Boat
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We can thank the fruits of decades of leftist ideologies infecting our schools for the problems we have today.
Are you this simple or are you just trowing shite out there? Parents hold the ultimate responsibility to teach their children right or wrong. Anyone who disagrees is just fooling themselves.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:10 pm to JuiceTerry
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in a white separatist group
What the frick is this?
Is this similar to white nationalist?
Can anyone explain what those groups are
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:10 pm to yallallcrazy
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Why is it when guns were more common in daily life ( I don't mean more numerous, just more common-- shotguns and rifles in the back of trucks/cars at school etc) were these events less common? Hell, 2 kids could have a fight at school, and one or both could have a gun in the truck, but neither would dream of going to get it ?
This is the singular fact that gives the lie to all 'gun control' arguments. It is not the gun, it is the mentality of the new generation.
As I have stated often before - i kept a gun in the back of my pickup all the time I was in high school during the 50s. Everyone I knew did the same.
There were NO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!!!!
If anyone insists that the gun is the problem, they have to admit that we were just better people 60 years ago.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:18 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Parents hold the ultimate responsibility to teach their children right or wrong. Anyone who disagrees is just fooling themselves.
Now this is true as stated. It is the parents fault. But what has happened to parentage, especially in minority families? Single moms raising kids who don't know who their father is, and having no male role model to instill the right kind of value systems.
They get their direction at the schools and on the streets. Schools have become infested with radical left wing ideology - the same ideaology that split apart the nuclear family and destroyed self reliance. The street taught the kids survival skills instead of aspirational values. Group-think was drilled into the unprepared. Being filled with grievances was valued more than coping skills.
Yeah - this all has its roots in left wing ideology, brought on by the destruction of the strong nuclear family that had led America to the pinnacle of world power.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:19 pm to FairhopeTider
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It’s an uncomfortable debate to have when you pivot to the fissures in American society that are causing this, but it needs to be addressed.
True and neither side wants their ideology or core tenants attacked and the problem is, there is enough blame to go around.
Aw, what the hell, it's the libs fault.....no wait, it was the hate filled conservative extreme ideology that is to blame.....it's either/or, never a combination.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:07 pm to ChineseBandit58
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They get their direction at the schools and on the streets. Schools have become infested with radical left wing ideology
Kids who get their direction from the streets don't follow school rules. The ideology of the school is irreverent when talking about "street" kids.
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the same ideaology that split apart the nuclear family
Divorce rates are around 50% for both conservatives and liberals.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:11 pm to The Boat
We can thank the alt- rightists and the gun worshiping and easy to buy assault weapons as a part of the problem. Most of the mass murderers seem to be right leaning psychopaths. I agree that parenting has declined but not your perspective on it being a leftist issue. FYI, I am pretty conservative on most politics.
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