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re: Groomer/Tranny Party in for a rude awakening
Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:17 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:17 pm to AggieHank86
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No, but I have no problem with them whatsoever.
Nor do I. Are you against laws that prevent public nudity?
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:20 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I have always thought that the laws against beach nudity and topless sunbathing are pretty stupid, but I have never given the matter much thought, in a more-general sense.quote:Nor do I. Are you against laws that prevent public nudity?
I have no problem with (nudists) whatsoever.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:23 pm to Liberator
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America specifically had been especially blessed -- until its ridicule and disobedience of God
Which time period specifically do you think our country (its people, its government, the cultural norms etc..) was acting in an obedient manner in which God blessed us?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:52 pm to AggieHank86
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I have always thought that the laws against beach nudity and topless sunbathing are pretty stupid, but I have never given the matter much thought, in a more-general sense.
You said that a male exposing their genitalia in a woman’s locker room is causing no harm. Only makes sense you would support allowing nudity in any environment.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:56 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Not at all.quote:You said that a male exposing their genitalia in a woman’s locker room is causing no harm. Only makes sense you would support allowing nudity in any environment.
I have always thought that the laws against beach nudity and topless sunbathing are pretty stupid, but I have never given the matter much thought, in a more-general sense.
There might be reasons other than "harm" to ban the practice. Or perhaps you define "harm" differently than I.
As I said, I haven't given the matter any thought.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:03 pm to AggieHank86
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There might be reasons other than "harm" to ban the practice. Or perhaps you define "harm" differently than I.
I DO have a teenage daughter and if some adult male exposed his genitalia to her in our club’s locker room I would be upset and more importantly, she would be upset. The fact you think a 7th grader being naked in a locker room with an adult male isn’t an incident of harm is concerning.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:04 pm to tarzana
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When is that dreaded EMP attack going to happen? We need to be ready
Much better to be spontaneous and caught completely by surprise.
But wouldn't it be more comforting just to imagine lying in a beach chair and sipping a Margarita as God rains blistering meteor and asteroid showers upon us?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:06 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Hank is pure pile of shite lowlife - in every conceivable way.
The fact you think a 7th grader being naked in a locker room with an adult male isn’t an incident of harm is concerning.
No decency whatsoever at any time.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:13 pm to BBONDS25
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I DO have a teenage daughter and if some adult male exposed his genitalia to her in our club’s locker room I would be upset and more importantly, she would be upset.
The fact you think a 7th grader being naked in a locker room with an adult male isn’t an incident of harm is concerning.
The described scenario you just underscored and poster's indifference to what is understood to be a totally unacceptable situation to 99% of us...is said to actually be a parent.
(No, I don't get the 1% either)
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:22 pm to BBONDS25
Barry, you are subtly changing the facts by using the term "exposing" to imply something nefarious, while I specifically referenced "walking around, showering and changing clothes." You are better than that.
You are also conflating "harm" with "inappropriate" or even "discomfort."
Simple discomfort is not "harm," in my view. No one suffers "harm" by seeing some skin, though they might well be uncomfortable with it. For example, I might not join a given club, if I felt its changing-room policies would make my daughters uncomfortable. I certainly would not take them there. Not because they would suffer any "harm," but simply because they would be "uncomfortable."
If another member VIOLATED the changing room policies, I would CERTAINLY be annoyed.
I have used clubs where everyone in the locker room wraps a towel when not IN the shower, and I have used clubs where everyone just walks around the changing room butt-arse naked. I don't see the folks in the latter club as "exposing themselves" in any sort of nefarious way. It is just a different attitude toward nudity.
If you are not uncomfortable with casual nudity, you might join one club. If you ARE uncomfortable with it, you might join another. Every trip to Santa Fe, I visit Ten Thousand Waves, and I always use the communal spa area. You might choose not to do so. Freedom.
No, I don't understand all the pearl-clutching about folks having the freedom to make those choices. By the reactions of some people, you would think that being comfortable with casual nudity was the equivalent of human sacrifice.
You are also conflating "harm" with "inappropriate" or even "discomfort."
Simple discomfort is not "harm," in my view. No one suffers "harm" by seeing some skin, though they might well be uncomfortable with it. For example, I might not join a given club, if I felt its changing-room policies would make my daughters uncomfortable. I certainly would not take them there. Not because they would suffer any "harm," but simply because they would be "uncomfortable."
If another member VIOLATED the changing room policies, I would CERTAINLY be annoyed.
I have used clubs where everyone in the locker room wraps a towel when not IN the shower, and I have used clubs where everyone just walks around the changing room butt-arse naked. I don't see the folks in the latter club as "exposing themselves" in any sort of nefarious way. It is just a different attitude toward nudity.
If you are not uncomfortable with casual nudity, you might join one club. If you ARE uncomfortable with it, you might join another. Every trip to Santa Fe, I visit Ten Thousand Waves, and I always use the communal spa area. You might choose not to do so. Freedom.
No, I don't understand all the pearl-clutching about folks having the freedom to make those choices. By the reactions of some people, you would think that being comfortable with casual nudity was the equivalent of human sacrifice.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:36 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Which time period specifically do you think our country (its people, its government, the cultural norms etc..) was acting in an obedient manner in which God blessed us?
Good, fair question, TT...
Right up until the name of Jesus Christ began getting banned in public places by our culture institutions; up till Christians started being fair game for open institutional / state discrimination, hate AND decriminalization...
(Btw, do remember the last time you saw all those 'JOHN 3:16' signs at football games?; Remember Tim Tebow and his prayer circles on TV after games? Yeah -- they ended that quick -- along with his career.)
ANYWAY...Seems as though all of the above "disobedience" and hostility" began in earnest sometime during the early 80s...
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:18 pm to Liberator
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Do you agree or disagree on my premise? Just curious)
Well to be fair I'm an agnostic who is still searching for answers. I think one can point to great evils in many eras in this country that would be worthy of a Supreme being being pissed with his children.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:23 pm to Liberator
The Declaration of Independence AND the Constitution were drafted and adopted during a VERY irreligious period of American history, between the First Great Awakening and the Second Great Awakening.
I would submit that those two VERY secular documents (especially the Constitution) may be two of the most important documents in the history of western civilization.
Even the references to the "Creator" use Deistic language, as opposed to Abrahamic. They damn-sure do not reference either Jesus or Christianity.
I would submit that those two VERY secular documents (especially the Constitution) may be two of the most important documents in the history of western civilization.
Even the references to the "Creator" use Deistic language, as opposed to Abrahamic. They damn-sure do not reference either Jesus or Christianity.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:not a problem. When they insist on "performing" for young children then responsible adults need to boot people like you out the nearest window for supporting child abuse.
men in dresses
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:51 pm to AggieHank86
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Barry, you are subtly changing the facts by using the term "exposing" to imply something nefarious, while I specifically referenced "walking around, showering and changing clothes." You are better than that.
Whether the man is walking around or changing does not negate the fact that he is exposing my daughter to his genitals.
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I might not join a given club, if I felt its changing-room policies would make my daughters uncomfortable. I certainly would not take them there.
Ok. Now do JR High sports practices.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:04 pm to BBONDS25
quote:In this scenario, it is a private club, and you chose to be a member with full knowledge of the changing room policies. You are the guy who buys a house on the flight path to the airport and then complains about the noise.
Whether the man is walking around or changing does not negate the fact that he is exposing my daughter to his genitals.
quote:I've said for years that biological males should not be competing in female sports, whether in junior high or elsewhere ... if that is the point you are trying to make.
I might not join a given club, if I felt its changing-room policies would make my daughters uncomfortable. I certainly would not take them there.quote:
Ok. Now do JR High sports practices.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:12 pm to AggieHank86
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I've said for years that biological males should not be competing in female sports, whether in junior high or elsewhere ... if that is the point you are trying to make.
This isn’t about competing in sports. This is about sharing locker rooms. No harm in a seventh grader seeing a man’s penis. That’s your position. Ok great so don’t join a club that allows men to change in the woman’s locker room. But what about when a young woman’s choices are, see penis and get naked in front of boys, or don’t play sports….still no harm? What about “you can t graduate without PE”. Still no harm?
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:24 pm to BBONDS25
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No harm in a seventh grader seeing a man’s penis. That’s your position. Ok great so don’t join a club that allows men to change in the woman’s locker room. But what about when a young woman’s choices are, see penis and get naked in front of boys, or don’t play sports….still no harm? What about “you can t graduate without PE”. Still no harm?
You're talking to a poster that has stated he could make an argument that child molesters are victims.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:30 pm to roadGator
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Trans men are men.
Right?
Wrong?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:34 pm to BBONDS25
You are REALLY wrapped around the axle on this word "harm." I have explained SEVERAL times that it might cause discomfort or even be inappropriate (both of which are certainly understandable) without causing any measurable "harm." Why is that particular word so important to you? You are acting like the religious fanatics for whom the word "marriage" is more important than the substance.
Why don't you try explaining the nature of this "harm" that you are confident has been caused? Distinguish it from "discomfort" and inappropriate," both of which I have acknowledged.
So, let's assume arguendo that I DID think this boy should be allowed to compete on the same team as the girls (again, I don't). I still think he should be provided alternate facilities for changing clothes, PRECISELY because the locker room interaction would NOT be voluntary for the girls in this scenario.
Why don't you try explaining the nature of this "harm" that you are confident has been caused? Distinguish it from "discomfort" and inappropriate," both of which I have acknowledged.
quote:At no point have I asserted that a 7th grade boy should be allowed to use the girls' locker room. Why do you keep asserting otherwise? You are completely fabricating that position.
what about when a young woman’s choices are, see penis and get naked in front of boys, or don’t play sports….still no harm?
So, let's assume arguendo that I DID think this boy should be allowed to compete on the same team as the girls (again, I don't). I still think he should be provided alternate facilities for changing clothes, PRECISELY because the locker room interaction would NOT be voluntary for the girls in this scenario.
quote:same answer
What about “you can t graduate without PE”
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 7:42 pm
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