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re: Gregg Popovich - "People have to be made to feel uncomfortable"

Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:46 am to
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:46 am to
I don't have any problem having the conversation he says we need to have. The problem lies with the other side that doesn't want to do any self-examination and simply wants to place the blame on me and people who have my color skin.

Guess what. I haven't held back a damn soul, regardless of color or whatever. Am I the one impregnating black women and then leaving them to raise kids by themselves? Am I the one glorifying drug/thug culture through my music? Am I the one teaching my kids that they can only learn from people who share my skin color and cultural experiences?

Back in the days of the real civil rights struggle, black people wanted what white people had and weren't afraid to work for it. Now, far too many in that community want it handed to them.

Instead of trying to learn how to succeed in this country they want to do things their way and then cry 'racism' when their culture holds them back.

The formula is simple, and it works for everyone who tries it. Go to school, pay attention and learn. Find out what you're good at and apply yourself. Don't have babies unless you are prepared to take care of them. That goes for men as well as women. Of course, there is the golden rule: do unto others what you would have them do unto you.

It really is that simple.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262290 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:49 am to
They don't want a conversation. They want to preach, scream and blame
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43405 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:50 am to
Exactly. Progressives don't want to have a conversation. They want anyone who disagrees with them to shut the frick up while they lecture about what a horrible racist misogynist bigot you are.



Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:51 am to
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Exactly. Progressives don't want to have a conversation. They want anyone who disagrees with them to shut the frick up while they lecture about what a horrible racist misogynist bigot you are.



This... they want you to bend to their every whim, desire and demand. And if you don't, better watch out.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135054 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:57 am to
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People want to hold their position, people want their status quo, people don’t want to give that up. Until its given up, it’s not going to be fixed.

I was kinda on board until this sentence.


This is what I hate about these debates. It always ends up with white people having to "give something away" rather than focusing on the actual issues that are the pitfalls of society.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262290 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:00 am to
Correct. According to ivory tower elitists like Pop, white people are standing in the way of success of others.

Ithats one of the more ridiculous concepts of their movement.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:30 am to
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Correct. According to ivory tower elitists like Pop, white people are standing in the way of success of others.

Ithats one of the more ridiculous concepts of their movement.


Well, the issue I have is that they demand that we lower the bar so everyone is equal. 75% of black children are born out of wedlock and live in one parent households? Ok, we'll make that acceptable and celebrated. 50% of violent crime is committed by black males? We'll blame it on white privilege. Inner city communities don't value education and drop out of high school in large numbers? Obviously the school's fault and they need more money.

There's never a solution where success standards are maintained and that's the dangerous part of this ridiculous ideology.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:33 am to
It's all about starting a conversation at this stage. And it's a conversation people are actively trying to avoid.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:34 am to
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See you have me rebutting your post and it looks like I'm defending these clowns


Yeah that's not a side I want to be on in any argument. Good job.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:35 am to
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your core values are just anti-white, and anti-Western


What?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:36 am to
Apparentlt a lot of NFL people are quite uncomfortable.

That what you mean greggggggggg?

Hahahaha
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:37 am to
No one is suggesting you physically give something away. It's a metaphor for culture change. Giving away your position on top of the social ladder in this country to create more equality.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135054 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:39 am to
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No one is suggesting you physically give something away. It's a metaphor for culture change. Giving away your position on top of the social ladder in this country to create more equality.

So please tell me how I "give up" my position on top of the social ladder in this country.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:40 am to
It's not something that any one person can do and it's not something that happens over night. Again, culture change.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:41 am to
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It's all about starting a conversation at this stage. And it's a conversation people are actively trying to avoid.


No one on EITHER side wants to have an actual conversation. People just say they do, but then it just goes back to the same old attacks and nothing comes of it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39633 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:41 am to
Perfect summary of the liberal mind:

"I have the right to never be offended, but you must be made to feel uncomfortable."
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43405 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:42 am to
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It's not something that any one person can do and it's not something that happens over night. Again, culture change.


End Affirmative Action and I'll get on board.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:43 am to
That's not what he's saying at all
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262290 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

No one is suggesting you physically give something away. It's a metaphor for culture change.


I hate to tell you chief, there is no white culture and the culture that needs changing exists in the ghetto
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:44 am to
I'm all for it. Affirmative Action was put in place because of this problem. If the problem is solved, then no one could possibly make an argument for it. I personally think AA is a racist policy that leads to people getting picked for things that they might not deserve.
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