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re: Great Ajit Pai interview with Fox & Friends, takes on Jimmy Kimmel
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:44 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:44 am to Prettyboy Floyd
There were plenty of people in opposition to an action nobody was asking for being vocal. No bots were needed.
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:49 am to sicboy
Was the public clamoring for NN in 2015?
I must have missed that.
I must have missed that.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:52 am to Vacherie Saint
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Was the public clamoring for NN in 2015?
I must have missed that.
yeah.. pretty sure you missed it. sorry? it's been an issue for 15 years.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:55 am to Vacherie Saint
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They don't even realize that NN wasn't even a thing until less than 2 years ago.
The irony in you using this talking point while calling others uninformed is thick. Your dumbass heard Bengal repeating this shite and ran with it.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:59 am to bmy
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it's been an issue for liberal bureaucrats for 15 years as the free internet gave birth to an entirely new economic platform that has created some of the most wildly successful corporations in American history and changed the world as we know it.
Fify
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:03 pm to Tiguar
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The irony in you using this talking point while calling others uninformed is thick. Your dumbass heard Bengal repeating this shite and ran with it.
Get the frick out of here with this shite. Go ask 5 conservatives on the street what NN is and they'll tell you it's liberals censoring the internet. Go ask 5 liberals and they'll tell you that repeal means big corporations censoring the internet.
The average American does not understand the issue, and most dgaf.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:09 pm to Vacherie Saint
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quote:
it's been an issue for liberal bureaucrats for 15 years as the free internet gave birth to an entirely new economic platform that has created some of the most wildly successful corporations in American history and changed the world as we know it.
Fify
successful because of net neutrality principles which are now in the process of going away.. and you expect me to believe that is somehow a win?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:11 pm to bmy
Priciples prior to February of 2015? Those are going away too?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:12 pm to bmy
quote:NN was only the past two years.
successful because of net neutrality principles which are now in the process of going away.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:13 pm to MF Doom
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Can somebody tell me what good repealing net neutrality fricking does? How does this help me?
It doesn’t help you. Quite literally the only ones it helps is the largest of the ISP's.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:23 pm to DavidTheGnome
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doesn’t help you. Quite literally the only ones it helps is the largest of the ISP's
Since when has government control of anything been a good thing?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:28 pm to Tiguar
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For a policy change that has an 80% unapproval clip?
Lol muh netflix
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:30 pm to bencoleman
I have roads to drive on. Ww2 was won. If someone kills my kid the government works to lock them up. There’s a myriad of things government does that benefits you. Are they the most competent/effeciant? No. But the notion that we need to live in some sort of anarchist state is absurd.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:31 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Priciples prior to February of 2015? Those are going away too?
Yep. This all kicked off 10-15 years ago really.
2007
After the open access rules were implemented, Verizon Wireless filed suit against the FCC on September 13, 2007, seeking to have the rules dismissed on the grounds that the open access requirement "violates the U.S. Constitution, violates the Administrative Procedures Act … and is arbitrary, capricious, unsupported by the substantial evidence and otherwise contrary to law."
2012
"Finally, the Order infringes broadband network owners’ constitutional rights. It violates the First Amendment by stripping them of control over the transmission of speech on their networks."
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:34 pm to bmy
What is your biggest fear with the repeal
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:37 pm to SDVTiger
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What is your biggest fear with the repeal
quote:
In the brief, Verizon argues that the First Amendment gives the company the right to serve as the Internet’s editor-in-chief.
The First Amendment “protects those transmitting the speech of others, and those who ‘exercise editorial discretion’ in selecting which speech to transmit and how to transmit it,” the company’s attorneys wrote. “In performing these functions, broadband providers possess ‘editorial discretion.’ Just as a newspaper is entitled to decide which content to publish and where, broadband providers may feature some content over others.”
AT&T: From 2007–2009, AT&T forced Apple to block Skype and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. The wireless provider wanted to prevent iPhone users from using any application that would allow them to make calls on such “over-the-top” voice services. The Google Voice app received similar treatment from carriers like AT&T when it came on the scene in 2009.
MetroPCS: In 2011, MetroPCS, at the time one of the top-five U.S. wireless carriers, announced plans to block streaming video over its 4G network from all sources except YouTube. MetroPCS then threw its weight behind Verizon’s court challenge against the FCC’s 2010 open internet ruling, hoping that rejection of the agency’s authority would allow the company to continue its anti-consumer practices.
PAXFIRE: In 2011, the Electronic Frontier Foundation found that several small ISPs were redirecting search queries via the vendor Paxfire. The ISPs identified in the initial Electronic Frontier Foundation report included Cavalier, Cogent, Frontier, Fuse, DirecPC, RCN and Wide Open West. Paxfire would intercept a person’s search request at Bing and Yahoo and redirect it to another page. By skipping over the search service’s results, the participating ISPs would collect referral fees for delivering users to select websites.
AT&T: In 2012, AT&T announced that it would disable the FaceTime video-calling app on its customers’ iPhones unless they subscribed to a more expensive text-and-voice plan. AT&T had one goal in mind: separating customers from more of their money by blocking alternatives to AT&T’s own products.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:42 pm to bmy
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bmy
those are your fears Some of yall need some time away from the interwebz then
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:43 pm to bmy
Ok. Which of those are going away? What other laws might provide the same protections?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:54 pm to bmy
How many of those cases did the corporation win?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:27 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:Are you kidding? Your posts usually give the best laughs of my day....
But it seems that I get on your nerves quite often
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