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Graham on Filling SCOTUS Seat: After Kavanaugh, the Rules Changed
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:34 pm
100% mutha effing this.
Rules?!? There are no rules.
Ok, there's the US Constitution, but other than that, eff all you mutha effing Leftist scumbags
townhall
Rules?!? There are no rules.
Ok, there's the US Constitution, but other than that, eff all you mutha effing Leftist scumbags
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Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., chairman of the Judiciary Committee, which reviews Supreme Court nominations, said he's prepared to advance a nominee if a vacancy occurs this year.
"Yeah. We'll cross that bridge. After [Brett] Kavanaugh, the rules have changed as far as I'm concerned," he told reporters, citing the intense battle over Trump's most recent Supreme Court nominee in 2018, who was narrowly confirmed. "We'll see what the market will bear if that ever happens."
townhall
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:36 pm to Frank Black
Attaboy. Grow a pair of nuts and put it on their chins
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:38 pm to Frank Black
It’s so refreshing that this is making Covid old news. We won’t hear much about flu #2 anymore and it’ll be great.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:40 pm to TrueTiger
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what rule changed?
Common decency was thrown the frick out of the window.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:41 pm to TrueTiger
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what rule changed?
The unwritten rule that they wouldn’t confirm in an election year. At the time, Graham said he wouldn’t support doing that. After Kavanaugh he’s said f it.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:42 pm to Frank Black
The rules haven't changed though. He should be careful not to lose the narrative. Filing this vacancy is normal and has plenty of historical precedent.
LINK
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History Is on the Side of Republicans Filling a Supreme Court Vacancy in 2020
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History supports Republicans filling the seat. Doing so would not be in any way inconsistent with Senate Republicans’ holding open the seat vacated by Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016. The reason is simple, and was explained by Mitch McConnell at the time. Historically, throughout American history, when their party controls the Senate, presidents get to fill Supreme Court vacancies at any time — even in a presidential election year, even in a lame-duck session after the election, even after defeat.
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Historically, when the opposite party controls the Senate, the Senate gets to block Supreme Court nominees sent up in a presidential election year, and hold the seat open for the winner. Both of those precedents are settled by experience as old as the republic. Republicans should not create a brand-new precedent to deviate from them.
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Republicans should not discard the rule of law or traditional norms to achieve their ends, but a Ginsburg vacancy, if one happens, would require Republicans only to act within the law and in accord with tradition. Woe to their future if they shrink from that
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:43 pm to Free888
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The unwritten rule that they wouldn’t confirm in an election year.
that's not the rule
This post was edited on 9/19/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:43 pm to JoeHackett
quote:I think you're taking him too literally. He's talking about the rules of common decency and normal procedure, not the rules of the US Constitution
The rules haven't changed though. He should be careful not to lose the narrative. Filing this vacancy is normal and has plenty of historical precedent.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:45 pm to Frank Black
They need to muzzle the disruptive screamers that stole the show during the KAV hearings. I understand the right to protest, but not inside this hearing. Why did they let it go unfettered last time?
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:46 pm to Frank Black
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I think you're taking him too literally. He's talking about the rules of common decency and normal procedure, not the rules of the US Constitution
I agree with him there but he needs to be out front pointing out that filing the vacancy is well within the Constitutional powers granted to the Senate and President and that historical precedent is on their side.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:48 pm to TrueTiger
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that's not the rule
That’s why I said “unwritten”
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:51 pm to Free888
The "McConnell rule" is that they won't confirm when these 2 things are true:
1. It's an election year
AND
2. The Presidency and the Senate are not in the hands of the same party.
part 2 is not true, therefore the 'rule' isn't even in play
Posted on 9/19/20 at 1:56 pm to TrueTiger
The "Biden Rule" says the exact same thing.
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What distinguished the Reagan-Bush Justices from these historical parallels . . . is that half of them have been nominated in a period of a divided government. . . . Since 1968, Republicans have controlled the White House for 20 of 24 years. Democrats have controlled the Senate for 18 years of this period. The public has not given either party a mandate to remake the Court into a body reflective of a strong vision of our respective philosophies. . . .
If in this next election the American people conclude that the majority of desks should be moved on that side of the aisle, there should be 56 Republican Senators instead of 56 Democratic Senators, 44 Democratic Senators instead of 56 or 57 Democratic Senators, and at the same time if they choose to pick Bill Clinton over George Bush, we will have a divided Government and I will say the same thing to Bill Clinton: In a divided Government, he must seek the advice of the Republican Senate and compromise. Otherwise, this Republican Senate would be totally entitled to say we reject the nominees of a Democratic President who is attempting to remake the Court in a way with which we disagree.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:10 pm to JoeHackett
I think the only thing he is referring to is that while it is understandable that the opposition party is going to oppose the nominee once they make it out of committee they are typically voted in by both parties.
Kavanaugh was 50-48
Gorsuch was 54-45
Kagan was 63-37
Sotomayor was 68-31
The Republicans never lock arms together to go against a person as a party.
We fully expect this voted to be at the top end 53-47,but I bet you will see 50-47 with Collins, Murkowski and Romney abstaining.
Kavanaugh was 50-48
Gorsuch was 54-45
Kagan was 63-37
Sotomayor was 68-31
The Republicans never lock arms together to go against a person as a party.
We fully expect this voted to be at the top end 53-47,but I bet you will see 50-47 with Collins, Murkowski and Romney abstaining.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:16 pm to TrueTiger
quote:He is not talking about some numbered-rule of Senate procedure. He is addressing the unspoken and unofficial rules of collegiality, decorum and decency that have largely defined the Senate for 200 years.
what rule changed?
As far as Lindsey is concerned (and Hank, FWIW), the Dems tossed the unwritten rules onto the rubbish heap with the way they treated Kav.
It was THEIR choice to discard decorum and mutual respect for longstanding tradition. Now they can reap the whirlwind.
This post was edited on 9/19/20 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:17 pm to Frank Black
Good. frick the dems and what they did to Kavanaugh and his family. You made your bed now lay in it, trash.
Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:18 pm to Frank Black
Hopefully it is the rule that says the democrats get to confirm nothing but lockstep leftists while the Republicans get 50-50% constitutionals and fakers.
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