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Government picking winners and losers on tariffs--steel gets the exemptions they want
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:25 am
Anyone that thinks the government is NOT picking winners and losers in the trade war is just mistaken.
Steel was very successful in getting the tarifs they wanted and also very successful in preventing the tariffs they did not want.
Basically if you have pull in DC you do not have to worry about the tariffs.
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Just saying--obviously the swamp survives.
Do you support this or not?
Steel was very successful in getting the tarifs they wanted and also very successful in preventing the tariffs they did not want.
Basically if you have pull in DC you do not have to worry about the tariffs.
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U.S. steel producers, who prevailed in their push for the Trump administration to impose tariffs on imported steel and aluminum, have also proven equally effective—and far more effective than many other industries—at avoiding tariffs they don’t want.
Steel producers in September petitioned the U.S. Trade Representative for relief on 132 tariff lines, primarily for raw materials and chemicals used in the steelmaking process that members of the Steel Manufacturers Association import from China. They were able to get 66, or half, of them removed from the final list.
Overall, the U.S. took nearly 300 tariff lines off the list, meaning about one out of every five removals was backed by the steel industry. A tariff line can refer to a single product but sometimes includes more than one.
Most other major industry groups had a much lower success rate in petitioning for exemptions on the grounds that tariffs would hurt members’ ability to do business, according to a Wall Street Journal review of letters from more than a dozen groups that filed such requests to the USTR. For example, the National Retail Federation and National Restaurant Association were granted less than 5% of their requested exemptions. The National Association of Home Builders got two of its nearly 500 requested exemptions removed from the list.
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The steel industry’s ties to the Trump administration include Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who led the process resulting in global steel and aluminum tariffs earlier this year and had long been an investor in steel companies. U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer previously spent two decades as a corporate lawyer often representing the steel industry. A former member of Mr. Lighthizer’s staff, Jean Carroll Kemp, joined the steel trade association in January as a senior vice president.
The Steel Manufacturers Association said it is “not unique in having hired former government officials for their expertise and analysis of trade issues, consistent with post-government employment ethics rules.”
Some trade experts and industry representatives say the system is geared toward companies with the most resources and access to government officials. “This type of process is relatively opaque and inherently prone to favoritism,” said Clark Packard, trade-policy counsel at the free-market think tank R Street Institute, and a former Republican policy adviser. The process of petitioning for relief from tariffs requires hiring international trade lawyers, a group of attorneys that Mr. Packard said is “relatively small and expensive to retain.”
Just saying--obviously the swamp survives.
Do you support this or not?
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:27 am to I B Freeman
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tariffs
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I B Freeman
SAD!
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:29 am to I B Freeman
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Anyone that thinks the government is NOT picking winners and losers in the trade war is just mistaken.
You sure start a lot of threads that suppose we don't know when in actuality we do know
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:29 am to I B Freeman
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I B Freeman
quote:
tariffs
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:30 am to I B Freeman
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The steel industry’s ties to the Trump administration include Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who led the process resulting in global steel and aluminum tariffs earlier this year and had long been an investor in steel companies. U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer previously spent two decades as a corporate lawyer often representing the steel industry. A former member of Mr. Lighthizer’s staff, Jean Carroll Kemp, joined the steel trade association in January as a senior vice president.
My desk is made of steel, we rent and sell products that are made from steel and aluminum. I must be a swamp creature.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:37 am to I B Freeman
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Government picking winners
'Merica first
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:44 am to I B Freeman
You are a one trick pony but this is too damn easy not to engage. Steel and aluminum get sway because they are essential to national security. If the federal government has one primary objective, it's national defense.
China now produces something like 55% of the world's steel. They subsidize the industry so that they can continue to grow this percentage by driving other country's steel manufacturers out of business. So, seeing as China is our only geopolitical threat, what is the answer to this quandry? It sure as hell isn't allowing them to continue to consolidate steel production, thereby allowing them cut off all steel to us if the crap hits the fan.
The first step is to reopen plants in the United States and make them viable again. During this phase we will continue to allow China to produce the nasty chemicals required in their own country. At some point, hopefully we will tariff these as well, as we move to a supply chain that is completely domestic and protects our national security.
China now produces something like 55% of the world's steel. They subsidize the industry so that they can continue to grow this percentage by driving other country's steel manufacturers out of business. So, seeing as China is our only geopolitical threat, what is the answer to this quandry? It sure as hell isn't allowing them to continue to consolidate steel production, thereby allowing them cut off all steel to us if the crap hits the fan.
The first step is to reopen plants in the United States and make them viable again. During this phase we will continue to allow China to produce the nasty chemicals required in their own country. At some point, hopefully we will tariff these as well, as we move to a supply chain that is completely domestic and protects our national security.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:46 am to I B Freeman
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Basically if you have pull in DC you do not have to worry about the [insert issue here]
Fixed that for you, for all things since the dawn of the USA
Riveting stuff chap
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:46 am to I B Freeman
If the administration is helping friends at the expense of non friends during this necessary trade re-negotiation, I'll be critical, but what you posted is piss poor evidence.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:48 am to I B Freeman
I support banning I B Freeman Or at least imposing a tariff on his posts.
Annoying fricker
Annoying fricker
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:52 am to MrLarson
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My desk is made of steel,
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Why?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:53 am to I B Freeman
Honest question: you do realize how it plays a significant role in National Security and why it is extremely important to have a viable robust national steel industry right?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:59 am to AUTiger1978
You understand that the steel tariffs are on Americans that buy steel from almost every country right?? That China is like the 11th largest supplier to the US? It is even on Canada still.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:02 pm to I B Freeman
Melt. Melt you management bitch boi
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:03 pm to ABearsFanNMS
So the steel industry can import from China tariff free because of "national defense" and the rest of us must be punished by government imposed tariffs of 25%?
That is BS but if you want to put the steel company profits ahead of the pockets of all of America I suppose you are entitled to your opinions regardless of the naivete reflected.
That is BS but if you want to put the steel company profits ahead of the pockets of all of America I suppose you are entitled to your opinions regardless of the naivete reflected.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:03 pm to MrLarson
No you are a tariff payer.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:04 pm to I B Freeman
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winners in losers
There's a winner inside every loser, we just need to work to bring yours out Mx. Freeman.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:05 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Hes gonna cry about union workers getting raises next. The fricken a-hole makes his money off of killing off American jobs. That POS can get fricked if you ask me.
frick him.
frick him.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:06 pm to RazorBroncs
Thank you for pointing that out.
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