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re: Government bailouts: Why not for student loans?

Posted on 5/1/22 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Again why not free up billions in student loan debt, to help stimulate the economy


If they some how pass this crap, I'll be expecting a credit on my taxes for the $60,000 of student loans my wife and I had to pay off ten years ago. If people who currently have student loans get help, why can't those of us who struggled and sacrificed to pay off this shite get help too?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28997 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 9:19 pm to
Boats loans and car loans need to be forgiven next.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:01 pm to
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Again why not free up billions in student loan debt, to help stimulate the economy? Our government has certainly helped out others using the same reasoning.




Because you won't "free up billions" in student loan debt. Student loan debt represents $1.7 trillion of the federal govts balance sheet. The LARGEST line item on our federal balance sheet...
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7894 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:33 pm to
Give them the equivalent cost of a chainsaw and generator for all the bums who didn’t prepare for hurricanes.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:35 pm to
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Because you promised to pay it back and the majority of people do. No reason to bail out bums.


so did AIG

I don’t think the federals should “cancel” student debt. but people under 40, myself included, have watched the government spend a shite ton of tax payer dollars to bail out low functioning corporations and investment banks that do stupid shite and then blame poor people for it.

hypothetically speaking, I’d be a lot more receptive to canceling student debt than bailing out Merrill Lynch(where my entire portfolio is located)
This post was edited on 5/1/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:52 am to
As far as the PPP loans for "businesses" went, I agree that something similar should be done for student loans.

But I will say that a fair option would be
1) retroactively make the govt backed student loans 0%, pay off your original amount and you're debt free.
2) Credit people with loans the amount they've put into Social Security since there's a 0% chance we ever get to take advantage of that system

Might as well make it to where student loan can be nulled thru bankruptcy like all other debts. Consider the college degree for the broke 22yo the same as the "business experience" you made when you ran a business into the ground and filed bankruptcy.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:20 am to
It is strange. Student loans are frozen effectively. Very few are paying.

What's happening as a result? Nothing. Nothing at all.

Government is printing away and inflation continues.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:32 am to
How about you pay back what you borrow instead of adding the burden on taxpayers.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:34 am to
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Again why not free up billions in student loan debt
Do you know anyone who has done the right thing and paid theirs off? I do.

Now you want them to double their burden because they were responsible enough to pay off their own debts?



Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:36 am to
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Again why not free up billions in student loan debt, to help stimulate the economy? Our government has certainly helped out others using the same reasoning.


I think it would be more productive to go back 30 years into the past and cover the mortgages of every tax paying American citizen, how do you feel about that?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:42 am to
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I’m not for bailouts, as a general rule, but the difference is that airlines, automakers, and corporate banks each employ tens of thousands of people, and provide needed services to Americans and the economy.


If the goods and services are in demand, a more responsible company can buy out the failed company and take over its operations.

There's plenty of demand for vehicles. And it's easier to buy an existing factory than build one from scratch.

Chrysler exists in name only. GM went bankrupt in spite of the bailout. Ford didn't take the money. Seems like we should have followed the Ford model.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:06 am to
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so did AIG
So if I'm hearing you correctly, you're proposing the same deal for students as AIG got? Really?

You know the old saying, "Be careful what you ask for ...." ?

The government seized control of AIG, "controlled it's life" for several years, then sold its assets piecemeal to recoup maximum return.

Given the choice, Bankruptcy would be a FAR better personal option for students. Then again, beggars can't be choosers.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9389 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:25 am to
Translation: "Errbody else got some free money. Where is mines?"

OK

But where the frick does it end? Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.

Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9159 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:13 am to
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I’m not for bailouts, as a general rule, but the difference is that airlines, automakers, and corporate banks each employ tens of thousands of people, and provide needed services to Americans and the economy. Student loan borrowers do neither. They can’t even adequately take care of themselves.



Agreed... and I have a retort for those (usually progressives) who like to raise the issue of tax cuts for the wealthy... Well, it's their money.

I laugh when thinking most of these people believe a taxpayer funded trip for years at a college is 'owed' to them.

Like stated recently, I'll have a porsche car loan and a house note in the Hamptons that identify as a student loans please.
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