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re: Gov Moonbeam Brown bends the knee, will send troops to the border
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:07 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:07 pm to Lakeboy7
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In the law game we call this a "hollow victory"
I've been in court probably a thousand times. I've never heard that used in the "law game". Phyrrhic victory I have heard. But never hollow.
Also...since you are in the "law game". You should know what Brown is saying he will not enforce. You and I both know what they will be used for.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 3:08 pm
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:12 pm to PNW
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What was once supposed to be a beautiful and protective 2000 mile long border wall has suddenly turned into maybe 100 miles of wall and the national guard patrolling the Mexican border
This is a dreadful circus.
What are you talking about..
The wall will be built, the troops will be there on security detail in the meantime while it's being built.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:20 pm to BBONDS25
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Also...since you are in the "law game". You should know what Brown is saying he will not enforce. You and I both know what they will be used for.
That's only part of what he said. He IS sending the CA NG to the border, where they will focus on the illegal drug trade and sex trafficing, that sort of thing. He said they will not enforce federal law, which obviously means the CA NG will not be turning illegals over to ICE, and they probably won't stop the "law abiding" illegals who cross the border from getting into CA either.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:25 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
BS. Stopping sex trafficking and drugs is border security and immigration enforcement . He is just trying to appease his base.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:27 pm to BBONDS25
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I've been in court probably a thousand times
Court reporter?
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But never hollow.
A hollow victory is when you get a money judgment against an entity or individual that has zero ability to pay.
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You and I both know what they will be used for.
No I dont know, if they are not participating in the immigration mission what will they be doing?
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:30 pm to BBONDS25
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BS. Stopping sex trafficking and drugs is border security and immigration enforcement . He is just trying to appease his base.
It's not BS, he did not say " our NG will not be guarding the border" he said they won't be enforcing federal immigration law. Two entirely different thigs.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:31 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Yes they are, Trump did not nationalize the National Guard, so they are under state authority, rather than national command authority. So ultimately the Governor of each state is the commander in chief of each state guard.
ok thanks. Didn't know when the Governor control ends and nationalizing the Guard begins.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:32 pm to Lakeboy7
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Court reporter
Leave it to a democrat to be an elitist a-hole that puts down other professions.
No not a court reporter. As an attorney. And not ambulance chasing PI BS like you.
And apparently you aren't even a very good PI guy if you are running into "hollow" victories. That's like being the dumbest of the least respected section of the bar. Congrats.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:40 pm to BBONDS25
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And not ambulance chasing PI BS like you.
Man, so much anger.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:45 pm to Lakeboy7
You mistake anger with amusement. I am amused you, a PI lawyer, have the gall to insult anyone else's profession. PI lawyers are the least respected section of the bar.....by far.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:50 pm to bamarep
I was at the Midland, TX airport last week and there were a lot of Chinooks taking off. The airport security said they the were the CA national guard. I asked if they were heading to the border. He said they were heading to Fort Hood (but then probably the border).
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:50 pm to bamarep
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but not for immigration enforcement
None of the NG will be carrying out law enforcement tasks per most experts. All of them will be taking administrative and support roles, freeing up actual BP agents for frontline apprehension duties.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:58 pm to bamarep
Yeah, right, what are they going to do at the border, plant gardens?!?! 
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:07 pm to bamarep
Dumbass does not know what fungible means
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:55 pm to PNW
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What was once supposed to be a beautiful and protective 2000 mile long border wall
Fake news
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:58 pm to BBONDS25
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You mistake anger with amusement. I am amused you, a PI lawyer, have the gall to insult anyone else's profession. PI lawyers are the least respected section of the bar.....by far.
Hey, parasites gotta eat too.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 5:06 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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incorrect. Stop posting stupid shite.
Provide details and proof. Or you can stop posting stupid shite.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 7:49 pm to DeafJam73
Actually he's right 73. It depends on which article the president requested the NG.
In this case it was article 32 which leaves command and control under the governor's discretion with the federal government footing the bill for the expense.
Under article 10 the troops would be under command of DoD and thus, the president. That's not what he used in this instance.
In this case it was article 32 which leaves command and control under the governor's discretion with the federal government footing the bill for the expense.
Under article 10 the troops would be under command of DoD and thus, the president. That's not what he used in this instance.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:29 am to idlewatcher
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ok thanks. Didn't know when the Governor control ends and nationalizing the Guard begins.
When the President nationalizes the NG they come under the command of the Army , which is why Posse Commitatus then comes into play. The law allows the NG to act as a police force within the Unites States but only if they are under state control (the law , of course, allows exceptions for national emergencies, which must be declared by POTUS)
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:52 am to bamarep
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but not for immigration enforcement
Are they there to run the concession stands?
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