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re: Good for Pope Francis
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:10 pm to DragginFly
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:10 pm to DragginFly
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So, when does a theory become fact?
A theory is made up of a bunch of individual facts.
For instance, the fact that all living organisms use DNA or RNA as their genetic code is one of the thousands and thousands of facts involved in the theory of evolution.
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:13 pm to DragginFly
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Would you say the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are equal in their reputability?
If not, why not?
We have a lot more tangible evidence for evolution than we do gravity.
We understand there is some force that attracts all objects to one another to varying degrees, but we really don't understand it very well. However, because it is essentially self-evident and has real world consequences (rapid death) for not believing in people just assume it's a "fact".
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:16 pm to buckeye_vol
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people don't need the pope to tell them what to think
So then why did you just tell him to to do?
i believe to frick himself, but your syntax renders my response ambiguous at best ...
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:18 pm to Roger Klarvin
So to put things in the vernacular, evolution is "settled science" where gravity is not.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:19 pm to DragginFly
quote:Well this is my opinion.
Would you say the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are equal in their reputability?
But I say that basic premise of theories are similar in reputability, and they are both two well-studied theories--although I think more disciplines study evolution.
Evolution's one drawback is the scale of time (retrospective and real-time observation); while that may not be too flawed scientifically (because of the number of disciplines coordinating the studies), but it makes it less intuitive in layman sense.
Gravity it something that is easily observable to us all, so it's more intuitive beyond science, regardless of the amount of evidence.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:21 pm to Fun Bunch
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Holy frick you're dumb.
Thanks for your insightful answer. Christopher Hitchens may be dead but glad you are capable as a stand in.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:21 pm to DragginFly
There's more evidence for Evolution than our current Theory of Gravity.
I mean this in no offense, but you are extremely clueless. You need to get some book learnin
I mean this in no offense, but you are extremely clueless. You need to get some book learnin
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:23 pm to Fun Bunch
Hey! I'm here to learn from you smart guys. No need to get salty.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:23 pm to roygu
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Thanks for your insightful answer. Christopher Hitchens may be dead but glad you are capable as a stand in.
That was one of the dumbest things ever posted on here. Sorry.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:24 pm to DragginFly
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So to put things in the vernacular, evolution is "settled science" where gravity is not.
Nothing in science is truly "settled" in the layman use of the word. It's always open to at least some small degree of healthy skepticism, but many things can become so concrete and some incredibly well supported they effectively become "settled" for all intents and purposes.
Evolution is mechanistically understood on a deeper level than gravity. Both fall into the category of effectively settled as discussed above.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:24 pm to DragginFly
I sincerely doubt that's the case.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:29 pm to Fun Bunch
I'm offended. Do you have a theory about my motives that I could disprove for you?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:37 pm to DragginFly
We've had many of these discussions on here. Your questions suggest AnswersInGenesis playbook.
We'll see.
Evolution is as settled as they come. Science is not religion. Religion starts with the answer and tries to fit "evidence" into that. Nothing can change the answer.
Science starts with questions, gathers evidence and let's the evidence mold the answer. New evidence can change the answer.
However Evolution has so much overwhelming evidence that supports it and none that doesn't. It crosses and is confirmed by all life sciences. Our understanding of genetics has transformed into as solid a Theory as one can possibly get. It's settled.
We'll see.
Evolution is as settled as they come. Science is not religion. Religion starts with the answer and tries to fit "evidence" into that. Nothing can change the answer.
Science starts with questions, gathers evidence and let's the evidence mold the answer. New evidence can change the answer.
However Evolution has so much overwhelming evidence that supports it and none that doesn't. It crosses and is confirmed by all life sciences. Our understanding of genetics has transformed into as solid a Theory as one can possibly get. It's settled.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:43 pm to Fun Bunch
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We've had many of these discussions on here. Your questions suggest AnswersInGenesis playbook.
Well, since I'm an atheist, I really don't know what that is so your theory is not fact.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:44 pm to DragginFly
quote:He meant the AnswersInGenesis playbook for Atheists edition.
Well, since I'm an atheist,
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
FWIW evolution is taught in Catholic schools.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:48 pm to buckeye_vol
Well, shite. He should have said so.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:50 pm to notiger1997
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people don't need the pope to tell them what to think ...
Then they also don't need redneck backwoods pastors and the cult mega church leaders to tell them what to think either I guess?
they especially don't need those asshats telling them what to think ...
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:10 pm to FooManChoo
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he's the head of a faction of the church
Catholicism outnumbers greatly the sum total of all Christian heretics.
Hardly a ´faction´, it is the One True Church.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:38 pm to TN Bhoy
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Your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. What's un-Christian about believing that God has the ability to act through divine providence that science may not explain?
That's not what you're saying, nor what Pope Francis is arguing against. Christianity posits belief in a rational God, a God that, as Creator, set up the universe with rules. This does not preclude miracles, but it does mean that God won't just start doing things that make no sense, like creating a fully-formed Mt. Everest that floats in the sky over New York. That's all he's talking about, and that's what you seemed to take issue with in your post.
Like Virgin birth and ressurection..those type of rule breaking things? If God wants to be a magician with a wand he will be..
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