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Go woke, go broke: College Edition

Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:22 pm
Birmingham-Southern will likely know their fate this week. They have asked Alabama lawmakers for $37 million to stay open. If they do not get an influx of cash, they will close in May.

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Faculty are meeting with students this week to discuss transfer options.

BSC has been on the woke train for years. Their homecoming festivities featured a drag show just this past fall. A few years ago, a Christian group was kicked off of campus, only to be let back on after a group of influential donors threatened to pull donations.

Here's what these small woke colleges in the South (Looking at you Trinity, Centenary, Millsaps) fail to realize. You can't go full woke. Your alumni base that went to your schools when you were a cut above academically are mostly conservative. The woke brigade that you has been marticulating for the last decade can change their social media profile pictures but they can't give money to save you.

This has been happening for a while. COVID sped it up. Millsaps and Centenary are next. Centenary's adding football as a last ditch effort.

Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5463 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:24 pm to
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You can't go full woke


So you can go a little woke?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18147 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:26 pm to
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So you can go a little woke?



Most colleges are. No one blinks when you have an LGBT club. But when you say your campus is fully committed to LGBT causes and those against it aren't welcome. Guess what, those students aren't coming.

If you are in Alabama, you need conservative students to survive.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29173 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:48 pm to
Let it close. I don’t think anyone will notice it’s gone.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14516 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:53 pm to
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They have asked Alabama lawmakers for $37 million to stay open


Any chance this happens?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10338 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:54 pm to
Are those 2 BSC students that burned down all those country churches still in jail?
Posted by interdesting
Member since Dec 2020
191 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:04 pm to
The president of millsaps just left to take over at Sewanee. Sewanee will take a while longer (since the endowment is much bigger), but it’ll be destroyed soon as well.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4787 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Let it close. I don’t think anyone will notice it’s gone.


I know this was a figurative statement but both my neighbor - a good German import from Munich; and a family friend are both tied to the school. One is an classical art instructor, the other works campus security.

I agree with the wokeism statements but believe the Birmingham Southern College debacle are more of a result of bad financial management from the previous school president.

From Forbes:

quote:

The university said its financial challenges began with “a building program in the mid-2000s that drew heavily upon the endowment and caused the College to take on significant debt. The financial crisis of 2008-2009 and an error in the accounting of federal financial aid further depleted the College’s resources.” It added that if it could not build back its endowment, “the economic model under which BSC operates is simply not sustainable for the long term.”
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5678 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:17 pm to
BSC was a cut above everyone in state even your other little private schools like Samford and Montevallo. I'm old enough to remember guidance counselor calling it "the Harvard of Alabama" and everyone agreeing it was the most selective and prestigious school in the state. I don't think it's even top 10 now.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9652 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:21 pm to
A private college wants $37 million from taxpayers.

Ahh...frick no.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29996 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:26 pm to
It’s going to be a blood bath for small private lib arts schools. They are obsolete.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18147 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:30 pm to
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The president of millsaps just left to take over at Sewanee. Sewanee will take a while longer (since the endowment is much bigger), but it’ll be destroyed soon as well.


Correction: The Millsaps President left to become a Vice President at Sewanee. Word on the street is Millsaps has 2-3 years left, max.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18147 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:34 pm to
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It’s going to be a blood bath for small private lib arts schools. They are obsolete.



Yep. The ones that did not pivot to additional revenue with online degree offerings are toast. Sat on a committee that opined that a third of NCAA Division III schools (where a lot of these schools are athletically) would be closed by 2030.

I'm very close to the BSC situation, having grown up in Alabama with family that are alumni and who sold land to the college in the 90s.

Here's the truth of their financial trouble:

Early 2000s - started pushing LGBT issues and alienating alumni base.

Mid 2000s - went Division I in sports. Was a total disaster. After their four year requirement was done, they went back. Students protested. In order to save face, they said they would go Division III and add football, which negated the savings from going DI-D3.

2010s - Had the most woke president of the Associated Colleges of the South. Finally fired her, but replaced with a military guy who had no idea how to run a college. By then we have over a decade of terrible decisions. Was known as the gay college in Alabama, which drove off potential conservative students.

Other small colleges started adding revenue by adding graduate degrees and online options. BSC remained "committed to the traditional student experience."

Late 2010s - New president decided "If we build it, students will come." and racked up major debt building new buildings and renovations others.

2020 - COVID hit and BSC made more bad decisions, alienating students.

2022 - Reality hits, BSC does not have the money to operate past May, 2023. Asks Alabama taxpayers for a bailout. Does not appear it will happen.

May, 2023 - BSC will likely close operations.

2023-2024 - Will the Alabama legislature allow Auburn to takeover the campus? Two small colleges in Tennessee have closed in recent years (Lambuth and Martin Methodist). The University of Memphis took over one and University of Tennessee took over the other. UAB wouldn't like Auburn coming in, but the physical plant of BSC is in good condition.


This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29173 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:43 pm to
the BSC folks I know don't seem to care if it closes or not. it's a tiny school for rich kids. i don't see why any public funds should be used to bail it out.

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