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re: Giuliani Tells Democrats To Take Their Subpoena & Cram It
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:59 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:59 pm to Godfather1
What due process issue do you have regarding Rudy?
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:00 pm to Godfather1
Schiff is feigning legal authority, the press is acting like he has legal authority and selling it to the public. But in reality their impeachment inquiry is just a empty paper tiger.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If they bring a civil lawsuit and the focus of that lawsuit is the congressional subpoena, yes they can.
Uhh, a judge isn’t going to just make a ruling upon request without hearing arguments from both sides.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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They have to have a "legislative purpose". If their reasoning for issuing the subpoenas have that, then they are legit.
What would you guess this "legislative purpose" consists of?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If they bring a civil lawsuit and the focus of that lawsuit is the congressional subpoena, yes they can.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything. It doesn't mean they will win.
Is Schiff and crew ready for a counter suit?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:05 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What due process issue do you have regarding Rudy?
I shouldn’t have any. You’re the one who seems to believe that a judge will just grant a ruling upon request without hearing arguments from both sides.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:06 pm to Godfather1
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Uhh, a judge isn’t going to just make a ruling upon request without hearing arguments from both sides.
Never said they would. Argue away Rudy lol
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:06 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It can be to pursue new legislation.
What is this "it" that you refer too??
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Argue away Rudy lol
I’m pretty sure he could take you.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:08 pm to Dale51
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What would you guess this "legislative purpose" consists of?
I’d like to hear this too, considering they refuse to vote on anything.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:11 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Never said they would. Argue away Rudy lol
His argument is ..."Fug off. What ya gonna do about it?"
At that point, the judge would need to heard both sides to rule one way or the other?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:31 pm to GumboPot
Incorrect. Both civil contempt and criminal contempt exist. If you wish to read about both and the differences between them, go to the link and read 754 and 755 from the US DOJ Criminal Resource Manual.
Bon appetit. US DoJ CRM
Bon appetit. US DoJ CRM
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:36 pm to TigerDoc
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Congressional subpoenas have traditionally been complied with based on norms
Oh yeah, well Hillary didn’t get that memo. And oddly enough, these very same Dems didn’t give a frick that she ignored those subpoenas, OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE and destroyed emails and devices and LIED to the FBI.
So your entire party can take all of these fake subpoenas and shove them right up your collective asses
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:36 pm to 10thFltPsyWarDawg
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Both civil contempt and criminal contempt exist.
And? What are the similarities to actions against Rudy??
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:38 pm to GumboPot
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If congress passes a resolution (i.e., legislation) to start an official impeachment inquiry then the judiciary can enforce subpoenas.
Is that a theory or legit precedent? Not being passive aggressive just want to know before I start repeating what you say.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:38 pm to 10thFltPsyWarDawg
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Incorrect. Both civil contempt and criminal contempt exist. If you wish to read about both and the differences between them, go to the link and read 754 and 755 from the US DOJ Criminal Resource Manual.
Ok.
Schiff can file suit against Rudy to force his compliance. Let the chips fall where they may.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:41 pm to SHOtime Tiger
it's a precedent in that that's how it was done for Nixon and Clinton, but the Constitution says nothing about how the House conducts impeachment. It's their rule to make.
And does anyone really believe a vote on an official impeachment inquiry is going to change the outcome here?
And does anyone really believe a vote on an official impeachment inquiry is going to change the outcome here?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:43 pm to TigerDoc
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And does anyone really believe a vote on an official impeachment inquiry is going to change the outcome here?
Nope. Nothing is going to happen either way.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:47 pm to Janky
Agree. The House needs to move on an make Rudy's behavior part of general obstruction & contempt of Congress articles.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:49 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:by whom?
he will be arrested within the week
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