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re: Gen Z and Millennials are burnt out, not from working hard, but because they lack hope
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:42 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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The context for this burnout crisis that young people are being forced to navigate multiple world-altering crises all at once: climate change, political instability, ongoing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war. The psychological impact is profound and measurable:
This is going to be the failure of modern democracy. They have politicized every ounce of daily life and most just can't handle it
ETA: Including whoever wrote this article apparently.
Democrats are driving a group of crazy people even crazier just to win odd-year election cycles, and half of Republicans and moderates will do anything (including voting D) just to make it stop
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:48 pm
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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Where natural stone kitchen and/or bath counters were things in the upper 0.1% of homes?
Where 1 TV and 3-channels was the middle class household norm?
"House" and "home" are 2 words that most people born in the mid-80's and later only use in reference to someone else's possession.
So frick off with the rest of that.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:44 pm to NC_Tigah
We are still adjusting to AL Gore inventing the internet.
It's pretty simple. There is a new medium to exploit. It will take time.
The left jumped on it first and we are playing catchup.
It's pretty simple. There is a new medium to exploit. It will take time.
The left jumped on it first and we are playing catchup.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:45 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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So tired of all the BS excuses and other similar BS from people younger than boomers.
Very fatigued.
STFU
Way to tell us you have no clue about current economic concerns.
Good jon boomer
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:48 pm to NC_Tigah
I feel it's worth noting that the author of the ideas you're straw manning is a white female boomer.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:49 pm to Perrin Aybara
quote:I'm returning from Europe where folks are thrilled to own 700 sq-ft apartment-condos. They think they're on top of the world. They'd tell you to frick off with your screeching.
"House" and "home" are 2 words that most people born in the mid-80's and later only use in reference to someone else's possession.
So frick off with the rest of that.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:51 pm to loogaroo
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Who is responsible for that?
People much older than them who created all of those stressor events and scenarios.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:51 pm to GRTiger
quote:and?
I feel it's worth noting that the author of the ideas you're straw manning is a white female boomer
She's also Jack Welch's widow. You didn't know that. Now you do. Does it invalidate her observations?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:53 pm to NC_Tigah
No one denies that the 70s were tough. The issue people have (I tend to dismiss it myself) is that older millennials and Gen X were brought up in a world where the workforce doubled (women), people stopped marrying as early, housing costs rose, immigration soared while all at the same time all of the jobs were getting shipped overseas.
20 years later, those same group of people who actually did have it pretty easy (the things you mention are mostly vanity) collectively decided to shut down the economy for two years because of a virus with a 1% chance of death. Further putting all of them deeper into the hole.
The problems today are not just one of those things, but all of them combined absolutely did a number.
I am younger than that so I avoided most of the consequences, my generation has its own problems but I can absolutely understand the bitterness.
20 years later, those same group of people who actually did have it pretty easy (the things you mention are mostly vanity) collectively decided to shut down the economy for two years because of a virus with a 1% chance of death. Further putting all of them deeper into the hole.
The problems today are not just one of those things, but all of them combined absolutely did a number.
I am younger than that so I avoided most of the consequences, my generation has its own problems but I can absolutely understand the bitterness.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:57 pm to NC_Tigah
Make better decisions
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:01 pm to 89AUTiger
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double digit inflation, oil embargo and 20% prime lending.
Here is the big difference: prices mirrored those factors.
That's not true anymore.
You also grew up in an era where you could get a job without a college degree and create a career out of it. Now only is not extremely difficult now, but tuition has out-paced basically all goods (including housing). Wages, however, have remained stagnant.
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Sorry if things won’t be handed to you on a silver platter. You’ll have to work to earn a living
Nobody is arguing otherwise.
It's just harder today to "get ahead" WITH working hard and opportunity.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:03 pm to NC_Tigah
They don’t have hope, why is that?
Because if you think, you’re much harder to control. Democrats simply put cannot win a debate where thought is required. Republicans ceded control over education because frankly I don’t think they were interested. Current events in the world and a focus on things that increased their power and generally made things better was their focus.
I took a moment to look at Harvard, and here are some of their electives.
First-Year Seminar 72X: Holding Politicians Accountable (Weaver)
Social Studies 98WD: The Politics of Health and Medicine in the United States (Reichert)
GENED 1052: Race in a Polarized America (Hochschild) (may also count for American subfield)
Took less than 10 minutes to find those gems. Wasting students time and the cost for these classes isn’t an idea that bore fruit overnight. It’s taken decades of this insanity gradually year by year to get to this point, and tearing that down brick by brick is also going to take decades.
Do you have the stomach for it? Because until Democrats policy and our education system turn from this culture of despair they won’t have hope. They will fight it, and killing Charlie was just them telling you they like it that way.
Because if you think, you’re much harder to control. Democrats simply put cannot win a debate where thought is required. Republicans ceded control over education because frankly I don’t think they were interested. Current events in the world and a focus on things that increased their power and generally made things better was their focus.
I took a moment to look at Harvard, and here are some of their electives.
First-Year Seminar 72X: Holding Politicians Accountable (Weaver)
Social Studies 98WD: The Politics of Health and Medicine in the United States (Reichert)
GENED 1052: Race in a Polarized America (Hochschild) (may also count for American subfield)
Took less than 10 minutes to find those gems. Wasting students time and the cost for these classes isn’t an idea that bore fruit overnight. It’s taken decades of this insanity gradually year by year to get to this point, and tearing that down brick by brick is also going to take decades.
Do you have the stomach for it? Because until Democrats policy and our education system turn from this culture of despair they won’t have hope. They will fight it, and killing Charlie was just them telling you they like it that way.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Tell it to Zuckerberg.
Nobody is arguing otherwise.
It's just harder today to "get ahead"
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:04 pm to NC_Tigah
I feel bad for them. Thanks Boomers.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Oh and they were in high school at the apex of the opiate surge as a social drug. I can't imagine many have gone through life without losing a friend to ODing or drug-related deaths.
I graduated in 92 and that was the opiate surge in the Nola area with a particular pill mill assisting - late 80’s - 90’s. In the 90’s heroin swept through making it worse.
I worked through Y2K (which was nothing unless you programmed Cobalt ++), 9/11and the financial crisis during my 20s.
I’m not knocking their experience. I’m just saying Gen X was right there through it, too.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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on the OT of course, not crazy land here).
as if the OT is not a cesspool?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:09 pm to NC_Tigah
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I'm returning from Europe where folks are thrilled to own 700 sq-ft apartment-condos. They think they're on top of the world. They'd tell you to frick off with your screeching.
They live in smaller places and drive smaller cars and have fewer toys but they hit the cafes for meals five times a week, hit the nightclubs every weekend and rock out their Prada and Gucci when they travel internationally 5-8 weeks out of the year on vacation.
Europeans don't make us much as Americans but the prioritize lifestyle and experiences over stuff.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:10 pm to NC_Tigah
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Tell it to Zuckerberg.
Random data points are irrelevant
Again, wages have not met the rising costs of life. Not just one or 2 things, but everything. One of the main issues is seen as intrinsic to the concept of Americana: housing. The other main issue is a de facto requirement for economic progress (dealing with big population cohorts here, not idiosyncratic outliers).
Having 2 different "once in 100 years" events to derail economic progress are in addition to the above general trends since the 70s.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Like WWI f/u'd by the 1918--20 flu, f/u'd by the Great Depression, f/u'd by the Dust Bowl .... and then WWII????
A generation being hit by 2 "once in 100 year" economic crises
You're kidding?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 6:11 pm to NC_Tigah
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Like WWI f/u'd by the 1918--20 flu, f/u'd by the Great Depression,
Very similar.
That generation had it tougher than boomers and Gen X, too. They're mostly dead now, though.
The saving grace was the post-WW2 American existence, which nobody has enjoyed.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 6:12 pm
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