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funny how the economy is improving at the same time gridlock is happening
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:30 pm
One reason I love gridlock is because it prevents the government from further expanding into the private sector.
Dude on CNN says it is remarkable how obama's approvals remain so low despite growth, well maybe this is why. Gridlock is keeping policies from being passed. Which is good.
Dude on CNN says it is remarkable how obama's approvals remain so low despite growth, well maybe this is why. Gridlock is keeping policies from being passed. Which is good.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 12:31 pm
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The economy is not improving.
The labor participation rate is at a 36 year low.
One or two good months do not make a trend, it only makes up for a horrible winter.
The labor participation rate is at a 36 year low.
One or two good months do not make a trend, it only makes up for a horrible winter.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:37 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
It definitely is improving, but obviously not because of White House authority. Gridlock has prevented the White House from interfering with the economy.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
funny how the economy is improving
Good one!
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:43 pm to constant cough
It definitely is
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
It definitely is
Almost half of this board probably believes the numbers are all made up. If drudge, zerohedge, blaze say the economy sucks, the economy sucks.
Deal with it. Facts don't matter.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Rick Santelli on CNBC had a funny quote... He was talking about how good things have gotten and how the govts interference has drawn it out to this point. That it should have happened much sooner... He said "The Govt prescribed a 6yr treatment for a 2yr illness"
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why are U1 and U6 both higher from November of last year?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:00 pm to Truckasaurus
quote:
Almost half of this board probably believes the numbers are all made up.
Yeah you're right Obama and the democrat party would never do that. They would never lie or deceive us.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:00 pm to Truckasaurus
Equally amusing are the dems trying to take credit for it.
Dems taking credit for this is like les miles taking credit for an 11 win season if he went 5-7 the first 5 years.
Dems taking credit for this is like les miles taking credit for an 11 win season if he went 5-7 the first 5 years.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
One reason I love gridlock is because it prevents the government from further expanding into the private sector.
Normally, that would be true.
However, there is the regulatory state, which continues unabated.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Equally amusing are the dems trying to take credit for it.
I was really surprised the Republicans didn't try to take credit for it. None of the crises (shutdown/debt limit) have seemed to be able to stop this train.
Government spending increases have slowed considerably.
If you believe limiting spending helps improve the economy, Republicans should be credited for it.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:22 pm to Truckasaurus
quote:I really wonder if this is a state-driven improvement or a federal-driven improvement.
Truckasaurus
If it's the former, republicans can take credit, since they dominate the state governments.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is because economies ebb and flow to many factors, very few of which depend on who's running congress or who is in the WH. Of course, the "stupid American voter" doesn't get this, which is why listening to BO and Romney debate about how they were going to improve our economy was a waste of time back in 2012.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I love it when there are arguments like this one between right wing crazies.
To sum this up, either:
The economy is not improving AND Obama is responsible for it
OR
The economy is improving BUT Obama is not responsible for it.
You guys are soooo funny sometimes.
To sum this up, either:
The economy is not improving AND Obama is responsible for it
OR
The economy is improving BUT Obama is not responsible for it.
You guys are soooo funny sometimes.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:43 pm to Truckasaurus
quote:
If you believe limiting spending helps improve the economy
Who believes that? Short-term it helps.
But long-term either the taxes or the debt incurred to pay for the spending drag down the economy.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:45 pm to mmcgrath
The same goes for dems, jersey Greaseball. The first 5 and a half years of this presidency, we have heard nothing but "obstructionist government to blame for terrible economy"!
Now, things are better, and the president gets credit.
Pick your poison, Jersey Greaseball.
Now, things are better, and the president gets credit.
Pick your poison, Jersey Greaseball.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:You do admit that you were having a debate with a few right wingers who are in total denial that the economy is improving, right? That should be a pretty easy fact to agree on, no?
The same goes for dems, jersey Greaseball. The first 5 and a half years of this presidency, we have heard nothing but "obstructionist government to blame for terrible economy"!
Now, things are better, and the president gets credit.
Pick your poison, Jersey Greaseball.
Personally I believe the economy is improving because we are recovering from the huge banking disaster in 2008. We are naturally returning to a healthier state after the economy was depressed and nearly destroyed by criminals. I wouldn't give either side any special "credit" for doing anything about it. But I am pretty certain that the gridlock by some of the Republicans have hurt any progress in a number of other areas.
Overall I like what Obama has done and wish the Republicans tried to align with him more than just outright oppose him on everything.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:12 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:
The economy is not improving
Wages are still at 2007 levels. After factoring in inflation things still feel tough out there.
The economy HAS improved, but wages have not.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I agree, but I think the falling oil prices have more to do with improvements in the economy.
One reason I love gridlock is because it prevents the government from further expanding into the private sector.
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