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re: Fulton county election office raided by fbi
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:33 pm to HailToTheChiz
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:33 pm to HailToTheChiz
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I would think the statute wouldn't run until the date the fraud, breach, or crime is actually discovered.
That is more of a civil standard (and a version applies in the civil RICO statute)
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:34 pm to RCDfan1950
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Sorry then. I thought I read somewhere that RICO when dealing with Treason/Conspiracy had no SOL. My bad if so.
It's not as simple as a 5 year statute as he is saying
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
In some cases such as fraud the statute of limitations time clock can start from the time of discovery not always from the time of the crime.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That happened in most jurisdictions.
You can't be serious.
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The Covid stuff had nothing to do with Trump
Nah, they just used that and a host of other things like taking a Misdemeanor and making it felonies by saying it was used to mask another crime even though they never laid to bear what that crime was.
Totally didn't use this bullshite to get Trump.
Dumb fk
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm curious what crimes they're alleging from 2020 aren't dead due to the SOL running last November
I mean even most of the post-election behavior should have been wrapped up by now, 5 years ago.
If there is conspiracy, the last act of conspiracy is the date where the 5 yeal SOL begins. If they went in and did a mass shredding of documents late 2024 after Trump was elected , the SOL doesn't end until November 2029.
And it is a pretty big reach to think that the people involved with alleged election fraud back in 2024 suddenly decided that they were not going to continue committing fraud in future elections. If there were proven plans by the same people to commit fraud in future elections, that would keep the SOL open. The conspiracy doesn't just stop when the 2024 election shenanigans are wrapped up and starts anew with the next election's shenanigans.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sure, but it's from the end of the conspiracy which will include all efforts to cover it up since then. Which probably went on till yesterday. Thus the warrant.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That also has a 5-year SOL
Libertarian conservative lawyer leaning on SOL is peak after all the bullshite he saw done to Trump that he defended that went past SOL.
quote:SFP
Trump is a convicted Rapist
Now we pretend we understand nuance on SOL but we didn't understand the difference between civil and criminal when we could call Trump a rapist.
Cute
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:39 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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You can't be serious.
No, it did.
Article form March 2020 for some exmaples (civil, but applicable)
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In Louisiana, Proclamation Number JBE 2020-30 tolled the statutes of limitations “at least until Monday, April 13, 2020.” All other deadlines in all courts were also “suspended” to April 13.
On March 13, the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana entered Administrative Order 2020-1 under which “[p]rescriptive, preemptive and statute of limitation deadlines are hereby interrupted until April 13, 2020.”
On March 13, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts issued Standing Order 2-20 which tolled all statutes of limitations from March 17 through April 21, 2020. “Unless otherwise ordered by a judge in a specific case, all deadlines set forth in statutes or court rules, standing orders, or guidelines that would otherwise expire before April 21, 2020, are extended to that date.” In addition, orders after an adversarial hearing before March 17, which are set to expire before April 21, 2020, “shall remain in effect until the matter is rescheduled and heard.” The standing order is available here.
By order of the Supreme Court of New Hampshire “[d]eadlines set forth in court rules, court orders, statutes, ordinances, administrative rules, administrative orders or otherwise that are set to expire between March 16 and April 6, 2020 are hereby extended to April 7, 2020. Statutes of limitations and statutes of repose that would otherwise expire during the period between March 16 and April 6, 2020 are hereby extended to April 7, 2020.” A copy of the order is available here.
On March 17, the New Jersey Supreme Court ordered that “[i]n the computation of time periods under the Rules of Court and under any statute of limitations for matters in all courts, for purposes of filing deadlines, March 16 through March 27, 2020 shall be deemed the same as a legal holiday.”
On March 20, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo tolled the statute of limitations for “any legal action, notice, motion or other process” from March 20, 2020 to April 19, 2020. Executive Order 202.8 is available here.
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like taking a Misdemeanor and making it felonies
That's a pivot
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Indeed.
I'm curious what crimes they're alleging from 2020 aren't dead due to the SOL running last November
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:40 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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If there is conspiracy, the last act of conspiracy is the date where the 5 yeal SOL begins.
I covered that
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I mean even most of the post-election behavior should have been wrapped up by now, 5 years ago.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:41 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Libertarian conservative lawyer leaning on SOL
You don't understand how strict enforcement of SOLs limits government and is a libertarian principle?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:41 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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Which probably went on till yesterday.
Why would you think that?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:42 pm to Vacherie Saint
Thank God SFP is smarter and more knowledgeable about the law than these DOJ attorneys.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sometimes you don't conduct raids to find things......you conduct them to look for what is not there.
Yiu might make such a raid looking for something that should be there, and you know what it is, and its been destroyed. You have it,and they should.
Get them for obstruction, conspiracy and destroying public records
Yiu might make such a raid looking for something that should be there, and you know what it is, and its been destroyed. You have it,and they should.
Get them for obstruction, conspiracy and destroying public records
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
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How did you know, SFP wash right behind you!
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
So you think every record was shredded within 3 months? They wrapped up everything they needed to wrap up. No payments were made, no communications were made, no discussions on the next election took place.
They pulled an Ocean's 11 and everyone involved just walked away (until the next movie) never to commit election fraud again? Knowing there was going to be a Trump v Biden again 4 years later?
They pulled an Ocean's 11 and everyone involved just walked away (until the next movie) never to commit election fraud again? Knowing there was going to be a Trump v Biden again 4 years later?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:45 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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So you think every record was shredded within 3 months? They wrapped up everything they needed to wrap up. No payments were made, no communications were made, no discussions on the next election took place.
There was already a TON of heat and investigations/lawsuits.
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They pulled an Ocean's 11
We're talking 2+ months, here, not one night.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm curious what crimes they're alleging from 2020 aren't dead due to the SOL running last November
Nice try, SFP. Doesn't quite work that way. The crimes are ongoing, SOL isn't running out.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's a pivot
That's a fact
The entire case was bullshite and you're using examples of them extended it a month perfectly extended to get Trump within the 5 year window with a year and two months added on. Totally on the up and up.
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Statutes of limitations and statutes of repose that would otherwise expire during the period between March 16 and April 6, 2020 are hereby extended to April 7, 2020.” A copy of the order is available here.
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On March 13, the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana entered Administrative Order 2020-1 under which “[p]rescriptive, preemptive and statute of limitation deadlines are hereby interrupted until April 13, 2020.”
The Trump case was essentially a year and 2 months.
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The judge chose not to address it in his ruling, but prosecutors also argued in opposing Trump's motion to dismiss that New York criminal procedure law allows the statute of limitations deadline to be extended when someone has been "continuously outside" of the state. Prosecutors contend Trump's presidency, from 2017 to 2021, met this standard, extending the charging window.
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Appeals over the statute of limitations often boil down to an argument over when the clock started running, Stanley Brand, a former general counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives and distinguished fellow at Penn State Dickinson Law, told USA TODAY. That question, however, is complicated by the nature of Trump's case, with misdemeanors being elevated to felonies.
Germain said he wondered whether the statute of limitations might apply to the underlying – and uncharged – crimes that made falsifying business records a felony.
"I could imagine a court saying that you can't put together two or three" misdemeanors that are beyond the statute of limitations and turn them into a felony that hasn't reached that time limit, he said.
He compared the case to "stacked Russian dolls," with charges that rely on an underlying crime, which itself relies on another underlying crime.
"That's why it's such a difficult case to understand," Germain said.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You don't understand how strict enforcement of SOLs limits government and is a libertarian principle?
Hey Google lawyer....the SOL my apply, but that doesnt mean severr issues can't be found and traced. SOL doesnt apply to firing or removal from premises, etc etc
BTW, many bad actors sometimes continue with activities to obstruct, hide, or flat out continue to commit crimes....making the SOL a moving target dating to last known activities
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