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Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:51 pm to phutureisyic
So she was a fat frick? Good to know.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:54 pm to phutureisyic
obviously an athlete. Didn't you see her shoes?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:55 pm to RiseUpATL
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So she was a fat frick? Good to know.
She made Humpty Dumpty look svelte.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:55 pm to the808bass
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How effective is it?
Somewhere between -50% and 99%.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:58 pm to LittleRockDoc
A picture of a healthy appetite.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:10 pm to Powerman
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9:1 ratio is insignificant. - politard bug chasers
This isn't a valid comparison. There's no guarantee the vaccinated people would have died without the vaccine.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:18 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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27 deaths among 1,000+ ‘breakthrough’ COVID-19 cases reported in Tennessee
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the “breakthrough” cases and revealed 195 of those fully vaccinated residents who tested positive for the virus had been hospitalized. She added 27 of the patients had died.
What this probably is, according to Israeli studies is simply that these fully vaccinated individuals had severe comorbidalities.
That's why they jumped on the "vaccine".
But the "vaccine" didn't help them.
hence the 2.7% death rate versus .3%
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:20 pm to bizeagle
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Additionally, because of the immune system exposure to these numerous proteins (epitomes), our T cells mount a robust memory, as well. Our T cells are the ‘marines’ of the immune system and the first line of defense against pathogens. T cell memory to those infected with SARSCOV1 is at 17 years and running still.”
Meanwhile, McCullough pointed out that by getting vaccinated, you’re setting yourself up for a very narrow immunity — much unlike the broad naturally acquired immunity — that could be easily overwhelmed by a more virulent virus. As he said in our interview that I previously mentioned:
“What I know based on the literature right now is there could be a risk given the narrow spectrum of immunologic coverage … There could be such a narrow immunity that more virulent strain could overwhelm it
The mRNA vaccines are designed with narrow immunity in mind. The logic behind it is strong, because of the morphology of this particular virus. With natural immunity you will get antibodies for every immunologic portion of the virus, but also risk serious, prolonged disease. Anyone who mentions narrow immunity offered by mRNA vaccines and doesn't mention why isn't really providing complete information.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:21 pm to LSUbest
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What this probably is, according to Israeli studies is simply that these fully vaccinated individuals had severe comorbidalities. That's why they jumped on the "vaccine". But the "vaccine" didn't help them.
What you probably need to do is shut the frick up.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:22 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Also, there is ALWAYS a percentage of the population that will be immune to any new virus.
What?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:25 pm to crazy4lsu
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With natural immunity you will get antibodies for every immunologic portion of the virus, but also risk serious, prolonged disease.
What does this mean?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:27 pm to David_DJS
It’s doctor talk. Needs work because he’s still in med school. But it’s getting there.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:29 pm to CelticDog
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no one is naturally immune.
not you.
not anyone.
You have NO IDEA what your talking about!
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:39 pm to the808bass
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What you probably need to do is shut the frick up.
Come make me bitch boy!
WTF is wrong with you?
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:39 pm to mtntiger
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but I'm willing to bet she died of a heart attack or stroke. Very sad.
IIRC the vaccine can cause strokes
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:42 pm to NIH
quote:why are you trying so hard to belittle Trump?
Why are you rooting so hard for Trump’s vaccine to fail
Trump is living rent free in your diseased brain.
you are a weak minded fool.
Geaux Trump - a leader for all AmericansPosted on 7/27/21 at 5:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You people are sick and demented
Geaux Trump - your PresidentPosted on 7/27/21 at 5:51 pm to David_DJS
To understand this, you have to understand that not every portion of an infectious disease has the potential to produce an antibody, as it needs certain characteristics, like degradability, size, and the right chemical composition. There are also four or so major molecules that can be part of any infection that are considered 'immunologic,' which are proteins, polysaccharides, nucleic acids, and lipids. The relation of this to COVID is because the generation rate of RNA viruses will center around a predominant genomic sequence, they sort of exist as a spectrum of genomes with other mutations in order to provide enough genetic material to survive the body's initial response to infection, as well as to respond to adaptations in the environment. So there is a lot of potential antigenic material which may or may not have some small difference between it and some other antigenic material, which is a feature of the generation ability of RNA viruses.
When antigen material is presented for the purpose of generating an eventual adaptive response, any number of antigen sequences can be targeted to produce memory B cells, each of which will be specific to a very specific antigen. To try to put it extremely simply, a natural infection will present many antigenic opportunities, but since adaptive response is longer in general, the infection will persist until at least that point, and the body should have robust memory B cells for all those potential antigens. The risk is that because it takes longer, the disease could continue to proliferate, with sequalae that are possibly uncommon. I couldn't quantify that risk accurately for any individual, though metabolic derangement and autoimmune problems will make natural infections tricky for those people.
When antigen material is presented for the purpose of generating an eventual adaptive response, any number of antigen sequences can be targeted to produce memory B cells, each of which will be specific to a very specific antigen. To try to put it extremely simply, a natural infection will present many antigenic opportunities, but since adaptive response is longer in general, the infection will persist until at least that point, and the body should have robust memory B cells for all those potential antigens. The risk is that because it takes longer, the disease could continue to proliferate, with sequalae that are possibly uncommon. I couldn't quantify that risk accurately for any individual, though metabolic derangement and autoimmune problems will make natural infections tricky for those people.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:55 pm to LSUbest
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What this probably is, according to Israeli studies is simply that these fully vaccinated individuals had severe comorbidalities.
That's why they jumped on the "vaccine".
But the "vaccine" didn't help them.
hence the 2.7% death rate versus .3%
So you're saying that those that were gonna die of COVID will still die of COVID in spite of the vaccine? And it appears they are more likely to die as that death rate is higher than seen in nursing home.
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