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re: "Fruit of Islam" coming to Troy rally against police brutality tomorrow (P 25)

Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:28 am to
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:28 am to
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This is one case where we don’t need to let the facts come out.


New sig quote thanks
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:30 am to
What if he fell running with the gun?? We don’t even know what happened
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115495 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:32 am to
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This is one case where we don’t need to let the facts come out.


Same thing was said about Michael Brown ("hands up, don't shoot") and Freddie Gray (Baltimore).

I am sure those cops would disagree.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7157 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:35 am to
Also, the parents of this kid should be jailed or if nothing else charged with neglect. Raise your kid right and this shite won't happen. You don't teach them to run from police. Whether stealing or not, if he didn't have any business being behind that business...he should not have been there. Again that is the parents fault. You want to change the way stereotypes are applied? Quit making them true. To truly change this shite, parents need to start being charged to some degree for shut their kids do. This country has lost accountability and that's what's needed to fix all this. This situation occurred simply because of lousy arse parenting from probably long ago. We have to break the chain/cycle somewhere though...and need to start charging parents for their kids actions because they're responsible for their youth, or should be, and this whole situation starting in the first place.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:04 am to
Running from the police has never crossed my mind.

How do you say "you can't outrun a radio" in Ebonics?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:25 am to
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that cops typically focus on arresting poor people for drugs despite wealthier white people using illegal drugs at a higher rate


Please show us where you fond the facts that wealthier white people use illegal drugs at a higher rate.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:33 am to
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Can we point you to about 100 videos of people going to get their I.D. and being shot to pieces? There are tons of videos of citizens complying to every damn ridiculous officer demand and still being shot at.


Can you be anymore dramatic? I bet you believe Tax Reform lead to deaths in the streets also.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8626 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:54 am to
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His results are all from 1 hard impact,probably being taken to the ground from a standing position.
There is no abrasion from sliding across the ground,and not even skin ruptures from licks against cheekbones,jaws,teeth etc.
Different licks leave boundaries,it's like a story that you can read,If you've seen it enough.




This is closer to the truth than the cops beating this kid and I'll tell you why I believe this. A friend of mine came by the shop after spending 3 days in the hospital from having a brain bleed. No, he wasn't beaten by cops. He tripped over a baby gate in his house and hit his face on hardwood floors. Fractured his cheek and orbital bones in 4 places. His face looked almost identical to this kid to the point they almost had to place a shunt in his head to relieve the swelling.

If the kid was resisting to the point the officer decided to take him off of his feet, it isn't unreasonable for a blow to the concrete to have the same results as what occurred to my friend hitting hardwood floors. Just food for thought. And like some of the rest on here, I'll wait for more info before passing judgement.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2707 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:57 am to
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Why the frick should they be on the lookout for anyone is no crime was committed?


It mentions no crime committed at the location where he started to flee, not that the guy didn’t match the description of a crime committed elsewhere.

Read. There are missing pieces.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:58 am to
Looks a bit extreme, but let’s wait until the facts come out.

If the kid was indeed fleeing and had a gun, then resisted arrest...
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:58 am to
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This is one case where we don’t need to let the facts come out


Thanks for confirming what I figured all along based on your posts.

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In this day and age there is no excuse to beat an AA kid like that unless you harbor some serious racism and sadistic tendencies.


I'll wait for the facts to come out, thank you. Your ilk have burned down too many cities based on lies at this point.

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I hope they hang and the Troy PD gets sued for 12 million.


If they are proven guilty AFTER the facts come out, then yes. Otherwise, allow those of us who are not mentally ill to discuss this from this point forward.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:42 am to
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f you resist police by running then yes, you deserve an arse kicking at the very least.


No, you actually don't "deserve" an arse kicking. You deserve to be apprehended and arrested.

Why is violence now justified? Because you inconvenienced the officers? Do you even understand what you're saying?
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:45 am to
Was that kid up to no good? Maybe.

Did the cops go overboard? Maybe.

Will folks take sides before the facts are out? Definitely.

Will this result in a shitstorm? Definitely.
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
924 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:48 am to
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To put this in proper perspective, there has never been a caucasian beaten by police in similar circumstances. Not one. Ever.

BLM has it wrong. The police are equal opportunity abusers. The difference is that when the police abuse a black person, other black people get angry. When the police abuse a white person, other white people assume that person deserved it.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:52 am to
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BLM has it wrong. The police are equal opportunity abusers. The difference is that when the police abuse a black person, other black people get angry. When the police abuse a white person, other white people assume that person deserved it.



There are serious issues with the way police departments train their officers. There's also the militarization aspect.

In general though, there are so many laws on the books that they can find a crime if it suits them. So they look at the majority of civilians as law breakers who just haven't been caught yet.

"We don't know what he did, but I'm sure he did something. Let's kick his arse and then sort it out later. "
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31599 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:00 am to
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Cops are a dying profession. This is why.


So,police forces will just disappear and people will just take care of crime on our own?

The criminals would be begging to bring back the police pretty damn fast. After they find out what real brutality is.
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
924 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:02 am to
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There are serious issues with the way police departments train their officers. There's also the militarization aspect.

In general though, there are so many laws on the books that they can find a crime if it suits them. So they look at the majority of civilians as law breakers who just haven't been caught yet.

"We don't know what he did, but I'm sure he did something. Let's kick his arse and then sort it out later. "

Besides all of that, police unions are evil. They're even worse than teacher unions when it comes to preventing union members from suffering consequences for their bad actions. It's not a coincidence that, when Scott Walker busted the public-sector unions in Wisconsin, he left out the police union. Police unions are as powerful as they've ever been and they're getting stronger.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31599 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:07 am to
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You deserve to be apprehended and arrested.

What happens when the subject resists?
How do you suggest that be handled?
Just wait until the guy is ready to be arrested?
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:20 am to
Unless he had fingerprints on the 'stolen weapon' he just dogged a class 2 felony and five years in the pen, and that arse beating might have been worth it, if he learns from it.

2nd chances are rare today he might wish to look at it from another angle.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8626 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:22 am to
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"We don't know what he did, but I'm sure he did something. Let's kick his arse and then sort it out later. "




Wow. I'm a 50 yo white male. When I was in my 20's I had a Toyota 4wd pickup with a Rebel Flag sticker as my back glass. I got pulled over twice by a black female Birmingham police officer for going over the speed limit on one of the back roads by my workplace which is in a predominantly black neighborhoods. And both times they only gave me a warning. I've also been stopped by Jefferson County deputies and Alabama State Troopers which were black as well and all gave me a warning.

The thing I learned though, is if I treat them with respect and not be confrontational, the opposite of "we don't know what he did, but I'm sure he did something" occurs. If you don't act like a criminal, more often than not, you won't be treated like one.
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