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re: "Fruit of Islam" coming to Troy rally against police brutality tomorrow (P 25)

Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:11 pm to
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You need a nanny state to protect you and your belongings?
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He could have been an employee or someone passing through.




I don't live at my shop, so if someone is coming from behind my shop and the police are patrolling the area, it's kind of their job to investigate. If he happens to be an employee, then guess what? He doesn't run and he goes home after they ask what he's doing. Not that hard to comprehend.



Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:14 pm to
Kid could have been walking back from the Troy University admissions office. He could major in engineering and be an astronaut someday. He didn’t deserve this. Wasn’t doing anything wrong behind a closed building with a gun.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30962 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:18 pm to
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So let me get this straight. A poor black kid training to run a charity 5K after midnight because he had to babysit and do homework with his little sister because momma had work at Burger King until 11pm gets brutalized by cops after stopping to take a piss during his run?


Where is he going to piss during his 5k run? Is he going to run up behind the strip malls?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:24 pm to
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How can you possibly twist the cops approaching you to speak into "danger?


I'm guessing that you didn't look at the picture? Because if you did the rest of everything you said means absolutely nothing
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:24 pm to
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To be fair he is a kid.


That's fair

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We don't always expect kids to know the best way to respond to danger


The only reaction was to run. Question is why did he run. Was he doing something wrong and didn't want to be caught? Or has society and his community fed him so much bullshite that he thinks he is going to be murdered by the next cop that sees him?

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And also he's a black kid so he's probably going to be more on the radar

This is stupid. Anyone caught sneaking around the back of a closed business is going to be on the "radar"
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:24 pm to
Daniel Shaver’s shooting was ignored so who cares?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:26 pm to
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With a gun.

That bolted when the cops approached him.

And resisted arrest when finally caught.


He allegedly had a gun* (which isn't illegal) and there was no weapon on him when he was beat up. A young black male with a gun would be smart as frick to throw it away.. an act that very well could save his life.

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It doesn't matter what time of the day it is or what it may look like you're doing, if you're innocent you are in ZERO danger. This is idiotic and arse-backwards thinking.


LOL



Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:30 pm to
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He allegedly had a gun* (which isn't illegal)


At 17?

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and there was no weapon on him when he was beat up


Who knows if he was fighting the nerdy looking officer?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:30 pm to
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I don't live at my shop, so if someone is coming from behind my shop and the police are patrolling the area, it's kind of their job to investigate. If he happens to be an employee, then guess what? He doesn't run and he goes home after they ask what he's doing. Not that hard to comprehend.




"Law Enforcement Officer".. his job is to enforce the law. It's not the cops job to harass citizens because they think a kid may be on someone's private property without permission.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30962 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:31 pm to
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I don't live at my shop, so if someone is coming from behind my shop and the police are patrolling the area, it's kind of their job to investigate. If he happens to be an employee, then guess what? He doesn't run and he goes home after they ask what he's doing.


We have a big steel mailbox at the back of the barn,guys are in and out of there all the time,cops come cruisin through,it's a wave and nothing else happens, a couple of the guys are black,and probably carrying a gun. I expect them to.
It doesn't get weird,it's on the up and up.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:39 pm to
Sorry buddy but you are wrong here. If they are able to stop a crime in progress or prevent a crime, that's part of their job. If an officer sees someone looking through your windows, you don't want them to find out what's going on?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:42 pm to
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At 17?


Legal in plenty of states
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:42 pm to
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The only reaction was to run. Question is why did he run. Was he doing something wrong and didn't want to be caught? Or has society and his community fed him so much bullshite that he thinks he is going to be murdered by the next cop that sees him?


None of that is good enough reason to beat his face to a bloody pulp. Say what you want but that has to be the main point here. You can question whether a kid did something wrong but there's no way he did something wrong enough to be beaten like that.

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This is stupid. Anyone caught sneaking around the back of a closed business is going to be on the "radar


In the south? Definitely being a black kid makes it worse. You can try to pretend like that's not true all you like but you know it is
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:44 pm to
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Legal in plenty of states


Not in Bama baw.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39022 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:46 pm to

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Question is why did he run.

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And also he's a black kid so he's probably going to be more on the radar


Uh...you sort of answered your own question.

Conditioning is a real thing...conditioned to trust cops or conditioned to not trust cops.

All depends on where you live quite often. Some zipcodes they are your friends, some zipcodes they assume the worst and everyone is up to no good.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:48 pm to
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None of that is good enough reason to beat his face to a bloody pulp.


Do we know if he was fighting with the officer?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21504 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:52 pm to
It's been a while since we had a good riot. Cops did a good job jacking him up too. 2018 gonna be lit!
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39022 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:53 pm to
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RazorBroncs


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It doesn't matter what time of the day it is or what it may look like you're doing, if you're innocent you are in ZERO danger. This is idiotic and arse-backwards thinking.


Holy shite.

Do you Youtube?

Can we point you to about 100 videos of people going to get their I.D. and being shot to pieces?

There are tons of videos of citizens complying to every damn ridiculous officer demand and still being shot at.

What phony gum-drop house on Lollipop lane do you live in Pollyanna?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:56 pm to
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Do we know if he was fighting with the officer?


I guess we won't know until they released the dash cam and body cam videos. It just seems odd to me that they have pepper spray and tasers as options but they somehow ended up cracking his face open
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:57 pm to
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The only reaction was to run. Question is why did he run. Was he doing something wrong and didn't want to be caught?

This doesn’t matter. The pigs’ job is to catch him, cuff him, arrest him. Not to get pissed off because you had to chase someone and beat him to a pulp.
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